Thank you all for your help! I appreciate it!
Jen 

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> On Jun 6, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Robert Doc Wright <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> The 4 finger is not as much a tap but a touch. to me the difference is in the 
> fource you use.  I think of a tap having more fource than a touch.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 5:57 PM
> Subject: RE: Two VO gestures I just can't figure out!!;
> 
> 
> Thanks richard ... I think the four finger single tap works slightly 
> different ... you are left with the first (top) element selected after using 
> it, and you can then flick right to start working down through the list.  I 
> got a little confused there for a sec.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 7:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Two VO gestures I just can't figure out!!;
> 
> That is correct chip.
> The list on the main part of the screen starts with the very first item. 
> But,, the standard behavior of VO is whatever you touch is selected.
> So, until you touch on the main screen,  the VO cursor is still in the status 
> bar and whatever you touched there has focus or is selected, means the same 
> thing in this case.
> There is no way to have something selected without the VO cursor being on it.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Two VO gestures I just can't figure out!!;
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Just to clarify ... when I do this I touch the status bar, the I double tap 
> the status bar, then when I move my finger back to the main area I end up 
> having selected whatever is under my finger; I was expecting to have the top 
> item in the list to be selected?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 9:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Two VO gestures I just can't figure out!!;
> 
> Hi Jennifer, as richard said, touching the status bar than double tapping 
> there quickly get you back to the top. You don't need to fool with a pinch 
> gesture since iOS has had a text selection mode that you can have in your 
> router. Put that in your rotor, turn to it, then you can choose by flicking 
> up or down to select word, line, page. So you focus on the beginning of the 
> text you wish to select, moved a text selection in the rotor, then flick 
> right and you will be selecting text by the unit you picked. The text that 
> you're selecting will be announced. Once you're done, move the router to edit 
> moved a copy, and you're good. Much easier than the pinch gesture, which 
> never worked well for me. Good luck.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 12:42 AM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Can someone please explain to me how to perform the pinch gesture when 
>> wanting to copy text? Edit is in my rotor but isn't always an option for 
>> some reason.
>> Also, to get to the top of a page or list... the double tap on the top of 
>> the screen never works... unless I'm of course doing it wrong.
>> Help?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Jen
>> 
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