I would really be interested to know ho wmany blind people really are unable as 
in incapable to look at the phone. I guess we'll hear how this works in the 
real world starting in November when these phones are going to be in the hands 
of people like Jonathan Mosen, other Podcasters and of course also some of the 
people on this list.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: iPhone 6+

It's pretty clear that the less secure version of Face ID should work for blind 
people who can't look at the phone. But it seems like a fair amount of the nice 
functionality is gone and the security is Les. How much less? That alone would 
make me not want this phone at this time. Maybe they will solve this problem 
and future. I hope so. I would hate to think we are stuck with a less 
functional less secure means of unlocking The phone, with the only alternative 
being the clunky inefficient passcode method. I wish they had put touch ID into 
the side button of this new phone. Maybe they will do that in the future, 
although I doubt it. Of course a sensor on the side isn't as convenient as a 
sensor on the front. But it beats sacrificing some functionality because you 
can't look at the phone.
Mary


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> On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I am very sure that next fall all iPhones will get Face Id as Apple really 
> seems to think that this is the way forward when it comes to biometric 
> security and they obviously spend a great amount of time and money to get 
> this to work. Just as with Touch Id and as it was pointed out in one of the 
> articles Face Id will surely get perfected, there will probably be a new 3D 
> sensor in a year or two which will make it even better.
> If your 6 Plus still works well and if you are not on contract any more then 
> why not find the cheapest possible plan from one of the MVNO's like Consumer 
> Cellular or whatever others have been discussed here and save up to get a new 
> phone next year, if you can save up enough to buy a phone outright you can 
> then even continue to stay with your low-cost MVNO.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Billy Maynard
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: iPhone 6+
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think this has been talked about before.  I have an iPhone 6+.  how many 
> verssions of ios will be still supported by the 6+?   Will 11?  like Most 
> have said about the X I don't see an advantage to a blind person for the X 
> but, the 8+ might be a nice upgrade?  I do wonder though will face id become 
> the standard of any phones after the x replacing touch id on allthere moddles 
> after the x.  Like would it move to the next gen iPad etc and any upcoming 
> phones.  Thanks for any help.
> 
> Billy Maynard,
> P.S. I think I heard ios 11 might be supported by 6+ but, I can not recall if 
> they said this is the last ios verssion that will be supported. 
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