Yeah, that's it, the breathiness. It's weird for me. I like the clarity of speech, though. If I'm going to be using a machine/computer, I expect a mechanical voice. As long as it's understandable, especially if I have to use it to access info for long stretches.
Microsoft voices ... can't, and don't like to do them. . Re Eloquence, I think it depends on the type of speaker being used. I use Reed and Rocco for my PC and JAWS voices. When I'm at home and connected to my Scarlet soundcard and Genelec speakers, it doesn't sound like Reed has a cold. But when I'm out and about and using the laptop speakers, he sounds a tiny bit congested. Re VDR, I like Hugh and James. More Later, Dani On 10/20/17, Flor Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > I tried Alex for a few minutes, and that was enough, and I won't be using > him (if I can help it). Too breathy. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chime Bear > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 6:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much? > > I use either Karen or Tom for my VoiceOver. I can't stand Alex. He > sounds too robotic. Better than Eloquence, though. > > On 10/20/17, Michael Feir <[email protected]> wrote: >> I have hearing losss and quite like the Alex voice on my iPHONE7. It's >> the >> best compromise between responsiveness and enjoyability and I use it for >> reading books quite a lot. However, in some backgrounds where I really >> need >> the voice to cut through for me, I prefer the Australian Karen voice. An >> old but reliable companion. The American Ava voice is also reasonably >> pleasant. >> >> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:34 PM Kay Malmquist <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I have a hearing loss and do not like Alex in any way. On my phone I >>> use >>> Tom or the male Siri voice. On my computer I much prefer Paul from the >>> DecTalk Express and can't stand Eloquence in any way. He sounds to >>> choppy >>> and like he has a clothepin on his nose, if he had one. Just my grumpy >>> take >>> on the voices >>> >>> Kay Malmquist >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 8:19 AM >>> Subject: RE: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much? >>> >>> >>> I think people were really looking forward to Alex because on the Mac he >>> does sound quite a bit better. Also, for some people with hearing loss I >>> understand Alex can be better than other voices. >>> I also still use Eloquence with Jaws although occasionally may switch to >>> a >>> voice like Samantha or Nathan if I want to read a longer article or >>> piece >>> of >>> text slowly. All of the human sounding voices in my opinion don't sound >>> good >>> when they speak fast. The new female SIRI voice on the uiPhone is a good >>> example. I think it sounds awesome, maybe the best TTS I have heard >>> except >>> maybe Alexa on the Echo, but she definitely does not sound good if you >>> go >>> faster than her default. >>> Larry is correct, voices are super subjective, some for example prefer >>> to >>> use the compact iOS voice and think it sounds better than the high >>> quality >>> one and I just don't hear it that way, to me the high quality is much >>> better. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of K. Scott Carlson >>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 5:38 AM >>> To: [email protected]; Larry Lumpkin <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much? >>> >>> I agree; Eloquence is still my favorite and I haven't found anything to >>> replace it. I actually find the "human" sounding voices to sound really >>> weird. >>> >>> >>> On 10/20/2017 8:37 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote: >>> > Synthesizer voices are highly subjective and very much a matter of >>> > personal taste. I like eloquence and wouldn't use another voice if I >>> > had >>> a >>> > choice and would do so if IoS offered it but that is just my personal >>> > preference. >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> > Behalf Of K. Scott Carlson >>> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 7:33 AM >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much? >>> > >>> > The subject pretty much says it all. I've tried using his voice >>> > a >>> > number of times, and it sounds weirdly robotic and muffled to me. Not >>> > appealing at all. 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