i prefer Tom Enhanced. Alex has too many odd pronunciation issues. Richard
On Oct 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Dani Pagador <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yeah, that's it, the breathiness. It's weird for me. I like the clarity of speech, though. If I'm going to be using a machine/computer, I expect a mechanical voice. As long as it's understandable, especially if I have to use it to access info for long stretches. Microsoft voices ... can't, and don't like to do them. . Re Eloquence, I think it depends on the type of speaker being used. I use Reed and Rocco for my PC and JAWS voices. When I'm at home and connected to my Scarlet soundcard and Genelec speakers, it doesn't sound like Reed has a cold. But when I'm out and about and using the laptop speakers, he sounds a tiny bit congested. Re VDR, I like Hugh and James. More Later, Dani On 10/20/17, Flor Lynch <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I tried Alex for a few minutes, and that was enough, and I won't be using him (if I can help it). Too breathy. -----Original Message----- From: Chime Bear Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 6:11 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much? I use either Karen or Tom for my VoiceOver. I can't stand Alex. He sounds too robotic. Better than Eloquence, though. On 10/20/17, Michael Feir <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have hearing losss and quite like the Alex voice on my iPHONE7. It's the best compromise between responsiveness and enjoyability and I use it for reading books quite a lot. However, in some backgrounds where I really need the voice to cut through for me, I prefer the Australian Karen voice. An old but reliable companion. The American Ava voice is also reasonably pleasant. On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:34 PM Kay Malmquist <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have a hearing loss and do not like Alex in any way. On my phone I use Tom or the male Siri voice. On my computer I much prefer Paul from the DecTalk Express and can't stand Eloquence in any way. He sounds to choppy and like he has a clothepin on his nose, if he had one. Just my grumpy take on the voices Kay Malmquist [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 8:19 AM Subject: RE: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much? I think people were really looking forward to Alex because on the Mac he does sound quite a bit better. Also, for some people with hearing loss I understand Alex can be better than other voices. I also still use Eloquence with Jaws although occasionally may switch to a voice like Samantha or Nathan if I want to read a longer article or piece of text slowly. All of the human sounding voices in my opinion don't sound good when they speak fast. The new female SIRI voice on the uiPhone is a good example. I think it sounds awesome, maybe the best TTS I have heard except maybe Alexa on the Echo, but she definitely does not sound good if you go faster than her default. Larry is correct, voices are super subjective, some for example prefer to use the compact iOS voice and think it sounds better than the high quality one and I just don't hear it that way, to me the high quality is much better. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of K. Scott Carlson Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 5:38 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Larry Lumpkin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much? I agree; Eloquence is still my favorite and I haven't found anything to replace it. I actually find the "human" sounding voices to sound really weird. On 10/20/2017 8:37 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote: Synthesizer voices are highly subjective and very much a matter of personal taste. I like eloquence and wouldn't use another voice if I had a choice and would do so if IoS offered it but that is just my personal preference. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of K. Scott Carlson Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 7:33 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much? The subject pretty much says it all. I've tried using his voice a number of times, and it sounds weirdly robotic and muffled to me. Not appealing at all. What is the appeal for people, since it was such a big deal when it was added? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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