Yes, over-hype is a marketing blackhole some companies fall into, and suck us in it as well. My last such was a ukulele, which went back, and they couldn't understand why. But at least they took it. Apple have quite good return terms, but they may differ depending on country, and how long you had it now.
Best, RobH. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lenron brown" <lenro...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 5:17 AM Subject: Re: Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen Instead of Growing the Screen to Fill the Body I have played with it a bit a friend has one. It's as fast as the 8plus to me. The reason I don't like it is because no fingerprint reader. Yes face ID works fine if you have the attention feature turned off and that's fine. Speakers sound good but they don't seem to sound that much better than the 8plus my little sister has. I must admit I do like the design a bit but that's all really. I must be missing something cuz it seems over hyped. On 11/28/17, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > Hello Lenron, > > You wrote, in part, "... and I hate the thing ..." > > Lenron, do you own an iPhone 10? If so, and you hate it, can you share with > us, why you dislike it so? > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of lenron brown > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen Instead > of Growing the Screen to Fill the Body > > Ok that's his thoughts on the phone. He still thinks is the best phone, and > I hate the thing. Just my thoughts. He wishes it was design differently. It > don't really matter what people want because if apple makes it, it will sell > and apple knows this. > > On 11/28/17, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Honestly the article is another session of someone finding an >> unrealistic issue with the iPhone. I really think if you can’t take a >> break from what you are doing and use both hands on the phone the >> notifications or posting to social media can wait until you’re done >> with the task at hand. Nothing is that important in life that it can’t >> wait a single second. >> >> JMO, >> >> Ed >> >>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:08 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen, Instead They >>> Grew the Screen to Fill the Body. >>> >>> By Robert Perez. >>> >>> Dennis Green at Business Insider offered an explanation for why he's >>> decided to stop using the iPhone X and go back to a Plus, and it >>> brings up a lot of feelings I've had about Apple's (AAPL) new iPhone >>> lately. >>> >>> But there's really only one flaw that really matters to me: the phone >>> is impossible for me to use with one hand. >>> >>> Though the phone is only a bit bigger than the iPhone 6, 7, and 8, >>> the bezel-less screen makes for an enormous size increase. >>> >>> The new gestures required by the notch mean there's no way to look at >>> my notifications with only one hand, or access the control center. >>> Those are pretty essential functions, and it drastically limits the >>> usability of the phone when I'm on the go or when I only have one >>> hand free.- Dennis Green, Business Insider >>> >>> I've been thinking about this a lot lately. The narrow aspect ratio >>> of the iPhone X is to make one-handed use easier but the user >>> interface makes two hands a necessity. I swing back and forth between >>> upgrading to an 8 Plus or an iPhone X. I'm torn between the Plus's >>> wider aspect ratio or getting the iPhone X's awesome FaceID. >>> >>> I still think that the iPhone X is the best phone you can possibly >>> get, but the size was somewhat of a compromise. I constantly come >>> back to the fact that I wish Apple had shrunk the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus >>> so that the the screen sizes had remained unchanged and the bezels >>> around them had shrunk. >>> >>> If Apple had shrunk the phone body around the 4.7" screen, then >>> one-handed use on the whole screen would have remained possible for >>> most people. >>> Further, a lot of SE owners, like my wife, would have finally been >>> able to upgrade to the 4.7" screen. This group would have been >>> ecstatic. >>> >>> Also, a lot of us users of the 5.5" Plus prefer this wide aspect >>> ratio because the extra width makes everything feel more spacious. >>> Video detail is easier to see and fonts everywhere are bigger. The >>> 5.8" screen on the X is actually larger and can physically display >>> more data, but due to the narrow width, it looks cramped in >>> comparison to the 5.5" Plus. >>> >>> I compared my phone to my co-workers X and found some interesting >>> differences. All the text and pictures on my 7 Plus were larger. You >>> can see much more content on the X but everything is much smaller. >>> Apple seems to be making an attempt to mitigate this by making the >>> fonts render thicker. >>> The >>> letters look much bolder than on my 7 Plus. It does help somewhat but >>> doesn't change the fact that the letters on the 7 Plus are >>> significantly larger and easier to read. I can read the 7 Plus >>> without zooming in on the text. I can't do that on the X, which >>> renders its size advantage moot. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> My problem with the Plus has always been the length of the phone, not >>> the width. It is difficult to fit into pockets, will physically hurt >>> your hip in tight pants, and is prone to flipping back due to the >>> higher center of gravity. If Apple had removed the home button and >>> shrunk all the bezels around the 5.5" screen, I would have been >>> overjoyed. The 5.5" screen is 4.75" tall. If Apple shrunk the bezels >>> around this size screen, the phone would be shorter than the iPhone >>> 8, which is 5.45" tall. Can you imagine the Plus sized iPhone being >>> shorter than the iPhone 8? That would be awesome. >>> >>> Apple tried to split the difference between the 7 and 7 Plus, but for >>> a lot of Plus owners it feels like a step backwards. If Apple had >>> shrunk the bezels on the 4.7" and 5.5" phones, everyone would have >>> been happy. A lot of 4.7" owners would have upgraded to the 5.5" >>> phone, but this would have been offset by 4.0" SE owners upgrading to >>> the 4.7" phone. >>> >>> If Apple had simply shrunk the bezels on their screens, one-handed >>> use would have been possible on the 4.7" phone and easier on a 5.5" >>> screen than the current tall 5.8" screen. I thought the benefit of a >>> narrow phone was that it was easier to use one-handed? If I need to >>> use two hands, I might as well get the benefit of a wider screen. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Now that Apple has started down the road of tall narrow screens, I'm >>> not so sure that the rumored "X Plus" next year is going be the phone >>> that I want. >>> It'll probably be an improvement over the current 5.8" X, but it's >>> not going to be the small-bezel 5.5" screen that I want. There's no >>> way that Apple could make the X Plus screen smaller than the X. That >>> means that any X Plus screen is probably going to be even taller and >>> harder to use. Apple will probably make an X Plus phone that is no >>> shorter in height than the 8 Plus or maybe even slightly taller. >>> Again, not what I want. Height is the worst thing about the current >>> Plus. >>> >>> I still think that the iPhone X is the best phone on the market, bar >>> none. >>> It has the best screen quality, and I'm seriously wanting that >>> optical 2x camera lens with optical image stabilization. Also, as a >>> runner who can never get TouchID to work after a sweaty summer run, >>> to me FaceID looks like a Godsend. I just wish that Apple had shrunk >>> the bodies around the screens and not grown the screens to fill the >>> bodies. >>> >>> >>> Original Article at: >>> https://apple.news/AmgzDuT9GSQub3tU-YyzeqA >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>> iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. 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