No doubt Face Id will be improved a lot although from all I hear it's pretty darn fast and reliable even now and probably more so than the first generation Touch Id was. Chris I think made a smart choice, if I was on an iPhone 6 or even 5S I would have totally upgraded to an iPhone 8 or 8 Plus, but having bought a 6S Plus I did not see the need yet and I'm sure even next fall there will be improvements and if I'm still not convinced I think my 6S Plus can easily be pressed into a fourth year of service.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 7:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen Instead of Growing the Screen to Fill the Body I can still use my phone while in my pocket if I need to. I think I might be replying on the wrong thread. Simon asked me why would I want to. Face ID 2.0 will be even better I am sure that's just like when touch ID came about it was ok in the first version but lots better in 2.0 On 11/30/17, Chris Chaffin <[email protected]> wrote: > > I totally agree Sieghard, and that is one of the main reasons I > upgraded to the iPhone 8 this year. Of coarse I was upgrading from an > iPhone 6, so there were lots of other reasons, but the disappearing of > the home button was one of the main reasons. > Not that Apple did a bad job on Facial recognition, but for me, this > will give them 2 to 3 years to get out any bugs and only make it better. > > Chris > > >> On Nov 29, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Eventualy we better get used to the gestures because the home button >> is in my opinion living on borrowed time. If the rumours which are >> already out about the iPhones of 2018 are true there will still be a >> lower-end LCD model next year which I assume will have a home button >> with Touch Id, but both other models will be OLED with Face I d and >> no home buttton. This means if you bought one next year with a home >> button and you kept it for 3 years you'd be fine for the near future, >> but everybody who wants the newer, higher-end phones will have to >> deal with no home button and Face Id. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of lenron brown >> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:19 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen >> Instead of Growing the Screen to Fill the Body >> >> Oh can't for get the gestures. They work fine but it feels weird not >> having the home button. That's probably something I could get use to >> if I owned the device. >> >>> On 11/28/17, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I have played with it a bit a friend has one. It's as fast as the >>> 8plus to me. The reason I don't like it is because no fingerprint >>> reader. Yes face ID works fine if you have the attention feature >>> turned off and that's fine. Speakers sound good but they don't seem >>> to sound that much better than the 8plus my little sister has. I >>> must admit I do like the design a bit but that's all really. I must >>> be missing something cuz it seems over hyped. >>> >>>> On 11/28/17, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hello Lenron, >>>> >>>> You wrote, in part, "... and I hate the thing ..." >>>> >>>> Lenron, do you own an iPhone 10? If so, and you hate it, can you >>>> share with us, why you dislike it so? >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of lenron brown >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:43 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen >>>> Instead of Growing the Screen to Fill the Body >>>> >>>> Ok that's his thoughts on the phone. He still thinks is the best >>>> phone, and I hate the thing. Just my thoughts. He wishes it was >>>> design differently. >>>> It >>>> don't really matter what people want because if apple makes it, it >>>> will sell and apple knows this. >>>> >>>>> On 11/28/17, Ed Worrell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Honestly the article is another session of someone finding an >>>>> unrealistic issue with the iPhone. I really think if you can’t >>>>> take a break from what you are doing and use both hands on the >>>>> phone the notifications or posting to social media can wait until >>>>> you’re done with the task at hand. Nothing is that important in >>>>> life that it can’t wait a single second. >>>>> >>>>> JMO, >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:08 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen, Instead >>>>>> They Grew the Screen to Fill the Body. >>>>>> >>>>>> By Robert Perez. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis Green at Business Insider offered an explanation for why >>>>>> he's decided to stop using the iPhone X and go back to a Plus, >>>>>> and it brings up a lot of feelings I've had about Apple's (AAPL) >>>>>> new iPhone lately. >>>>>> >>>>>> But there's really only one flaw that really matters to me: the >>>>>> phone is impossible for me to use with one hand. >>>>>> >>>>>> Though the phone is only a bit bigger than the iPhone 6, 7, and >>>>>> 8, the bezel-less screen makes for an enormous size increase. >>>>>> >>>>>> The new gestures required by the notch mean there's no way to >>>>>> look at my notifications with only one hand, or access the control >>>>>> center. >>>>>> Those are pretty essential functions, and it drastically limits >>>>>> the usability of the phone when I'm on the go or when I only have >>>>>> one hand free.- Dennis Green, Business Insider >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been thinking about this a lot lately. The narrow aspect >>>>>> ratio of the iPhone X is to make one-handed use easier but the >>>>>> user interface makes two hands a necessity. I swing back and >>>>>> forth between upgrading to an 8 Plus or an iPhone X. I'm torn >>>>>> between the Plus's wider aspect ratio or getting the iPhone X's >>>>>> awesome FaceID. >>>>>> >>>>>> I still think that the iPhone X is the best phone you can >>>>>> possibly get, but the size was somewhat of a compromise. I >>>>>> constantly come back to the fact that I wish Apple had shrunk the >>>>>> iPhone 7 and 7 Plus so that the the screen sizes had remained >>>>>> unchanged and the bezels around them had shrunk. >>>>>> >>>>>> If Apple had shrunk the phone body around the 4.7" screen, then >>>>>> one-handed use on the whole screen would have remained possible >>>>>> for most people. >>>>>> Further, a lot of SE owners, like my wife, would have finally >>>>>> been able to upgrade to the 4.7" screen. This group would have >>>>>> been ecstatic. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, a lot of us users of the 5.5" Plus prefer this wide aspect >>>>>> ratio because the extra width makes everything feel more spacious. >>>>>> Video detail is easier to see and fonts everywhere are bigger. >>>>>> The 5.8" screen on the X is actually larger and can physically >>>>>> display more data, but due to the narrow width, it looks cramped >>>>>> in comparison to the 5.5" Plus. >>>>>> >>>>>> I compared my phone to my co-workers X and found some interesting >>>>>> differences. All the text and pictures on my 7 Plus were larger. >>>>>> You can see much more content on the X but everything is much >>>>>> smaller. >>>>>> Apple seems to be making an attempt to mitigate this by making >>>>>> the fonts render thicker. >>>>>> The >>>>>> letters look much bolder than on my 7 Plus. It does help somewhat >>>>>> but doesn't change the fact that the letters on the 7 Plus are >>>>>> significantly larger and easier to read. I can read the 7 Plus >>>>>> without zooming in on the text. I can't do that on the X, which >>>>>> renders its size advantage moot. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My problem with the Plus has always been the length of the phone, >>>>>> not the width. It is difficult to fit into pockets, will >>>>>> physically hurt your hip in tight pants, and is prone to flipping >>>>>> back due to the higher center of gravity. If Apple had removed >>>>>> the home button and shrunk all the bezels around the 5.5" screen, >>>>>> I would have been overjoyed. The 5.5" screen is 4.75" tall. If >>>>>> Apple shrunk the bezels around this size screen, the phone would >>>>>> be shorter than the iPhone 8, which is 5.45" tall. Can you >>>>>> imagine the Plus sized iPhone being shorter than the iPhone 8? That >>>>>> would be awesome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple tried to split the difference between the 7 and 7 Plus, but >>>>>> for a lot of Plus owners it feels like a step backwards. If Apple >>>>>> had shrunk the bezels on the 4.7" and 5.5" phones, everyone would >>>>>> have been happy. A lot of 4.7" owners would have upgraded to the 5.5" >>>>>> phone, but this would have been offset by 4.0" SE owners >>>>>> upgrading to the 4.7" phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> If Apple had simply shrunk the bezels on their screens, >>>>>> one-handed use would have been possible on the 4.7" phone and easier on >>>>>> a 5.5" >>>>>> screen than the current tall 5.8" screen. I thought the benefit >>>>>> of a narrow phone was that it was easier to use one-handed? If I >>>>>> need to use two hands, I might as well get the benefit of a wider screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Now that Apple has started down the road of tall narrow screens, >>>>>> I'm not so sure that the rumored "X Plus" next year is going be >>>>>> the phone that I want. >>>>>> It'll probably be an improvement over the current 5.8" X, but >>>>>> it's not going to be the small-bezel 5.5" screen that I want. >>>>>> There's no way that Apple could make the X Plus screen smaller than the >>>>>> X. >>>>>> That means that any X Plus screen is probably going to be even >>>>>> taller and harder to use. Apple will probably make an X Plus >>>>>> phone that is no shorter in height than the 8 Plus or maybe even >>>>>> slightly taller. >>>>>> Again, not what I want. Height is the worst thing about the >>>>>> current Plus. >>>>>> >>>>>> I still think that the iPhone X is the best phone on the market, >>>>>> bar none. >>>>>> It has the best screen quality, and I'm seriously wanting that >>>>>> optical 2x camera lens with optical image stabilization. Also, as >>>>>> a runner who can never get TouchID to work after a sweaty summer >>>>>> run, to me FaceID looks like a Godsend. I just wish that Apple >>>>>> had shrunk the bodies around the screens and not grown the >>>>>> screens to fill the bodies. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Original Article at: >>>>>> https://apple.news/AmgzDuT9GSQub3tU-YyzeqA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>>> iPhone list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >>>>>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than >>>>>> posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> [email protected]. 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