I totally agree Sieghard, and that is one of the main reasons I upgraded to the iPhone 8 this year. Of coarse I was upgrading from an iPhone 6, so there were lots of other reasons, but the disappearing of the home button was one of the main reasons. Not that Apple did a bad job on Facial recognition, but for me, this will give them 2 to 3 years to get out any bugs and only make it better.
Chris > On Nov 29, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Eventualy we better get used to the gestures because the home button is in my > opinion living on borrowed time. If the rumours which are already out about > the iPhones of 2018 are true there will still be a lower-end LCD model next > year which I assume will have a home button with Touch Id, but both other > models will be OLED with Face I d and no home buttton. This means if you > bought one next year with a home button and you kept it for 3 years you'd be > fine for the near future, but everybody who wants the newer, higher-end > phones will have to deal with no home button and Face Id. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > lenron brown > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen Instead of > Growing the Screen to Fill the Body > > Oh can't for get the gestures. They work fine but it feels weird not having > the home button. That's probably something I could get use to if I owned the > device. > >> On 11/28/17, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> I have played with it a bit a friend has one. It's as fast as the >> 8plus to me. The reason I don't like it is because no fingerprint >> reader. Yes face ID works fine if you have the attention feature >> turned off and that's fine. Speakers sound good but they don't seem to >> sound that much better than the 8plus my little sister has. I must >> admit I do like the design a bit but that's all really. I must be >> missing something cuz it seems over hyped. >> >>> On 11/28/17, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello Lenron, >>> >>> You wrote, in part, "... and I hate the thing ..." >>> >>> Lenron, do you own an iPhone 10? If so, and you hate it, can you >>> share with us, why you dislike it so? >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of lenron brown >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen >>> Instead of Growing the Screen to Fill the Body >>> >>> Ok that's his thoughts on the phone. He still thinks is the best >>> phone, and I hate the thing. Just my thoughts. He wishes it was >>> design differently. >>> It >>> don't really matter what people want because if apple makes it, it >>> will sell and apple knows this. >>> >>>> On 11/28/17, Ed Worrell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Honestly the article is another session of someone finding an >>>> unrealistic issue with the iPhone. I really think if you can’t take >>>> a break from what you are doing and use both hands on the phone the >>>> notifications or posting to social media can wait until you’re done >>>> with the task at hand. Nothing is that important in life that it >>>> can’t wait a single second. >>>> >>>> JMO, >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:08 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen, Instead They >>>>> Grew the Screen to Fill the Body. >>>>> >>>>> By Robert Perez. >>>>> >>>>> Dennis Green at Business Insider offered an explanation for why >>>>> he's decided to stop using the iPhone X and go back to a Plus, and >>>>> it brings up a lot of feelings I've had about Apple's (AAPL) new >>>>> iPhone lately. >>>>> >>>>> But there's really only one flaw that really matters to me: the >>>>> phone is impossible for me to use with one hand. >>>>> >>>>> Though the phone is only a bit bigger than the iPhone 6, 7, and 8, >>>>> the bezel-less screen makes for an enormous size increase. >>>>> >>>>> The new gestures required by the notch mean there's no way to look >>>>> at my notifications with only one hand, or access the control center. >>>>> Those are pretty essential functions, and it drastically limits the >>>>> usability of the phone when I'm on the go or when I only have one >>>>> hand free.- Dennis Green, Business Insider >>>>> >>>>> I've been thinking about this a lot lately. The narrow aspect ratio >>>>> of the iPhone X is to make one-handed use easier but the user >>>>> interface makes two hands a necessity. I swing back and forth >>>>> between upgrading to an 8 Plus or an iPhone X. I'm torn between >>>>> the Plus's wider aspect ratio or getting the iPhone X's awesome FaceID. >>>>> >>>>> I still think that the iPhone X is the best phone you can possibly >>>>> get, but the size was somewhat of a compromise. I constantly come >>>>> back to the fact that I wish Apple had shrunk the iPhone 7 and 7 >>>>> Plus so that the the screen sizes had remained unchanged and the >>>>> bezels around them had shrunk. >>>>> >>>>> If Apple had shrunk the phone body around the 4.7" screen, then >>>>> one-handed use on the whole screen would have remained possible for >>>>> most people. >>>>> Further, a lot of SE owners, like my wife, would have finally been >>>>> able to upgrade to the 4.7" screen. This group would have been >>>>> ecstatic. >>>>> >>>>> Also, a lot of us users of the 5.5" Plus prefer this wide aspect >>>>> ratio because the extra width makes everything feel more spacious. >>>>> Video detail is easier to see and fonts everywhere are bigger. The >>>>> 5.8" screen on the X is actually larger and can physically display >>>>> more data, but due to the narrow width, it looks cramped in >>>>> comparison to the 5.5" Plus. >>>>> >>>>> I compared my phone to my co-workers X and found some interesting >>>>> differences. All the text and pictures on my 7 Plus were larger. >>>>> You can see much more content on the X but everything is much smaller. >>>>> Apple seems to be making an attempt to mitigate this by making the >>>>> fonts render thicker. >>>>> The >>>>> letters look much bolder than on my 7 Plus. It does help somewhat >>>>> but doesn't change the fact that the letters on the 7 Plus are >>>>> significantly larger and easier to read. I can read the 7 Plus >>>>> without zooming in on the text. I can't do that on the X, which >>>>> renders its size advantage moot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My problem with the Plus has always been the length of the phone, >>>>> not the width. It is difficult to fit into pockets, will physically >>>>> hurt your hip in tight pants, and is prone to flipping back due to >>>>> the higher center of gravity. If Apple had removed the home button >>>>> and shrunk all the bezels around the 5.5" screen, I would have been >>>>> overjoyed. The 5.5" screen is 4.75" tall. If Apple shrunk the >>>>> bezels around this size screen, the phone would be shorter than the >>>>> iPhone 8, which is 5.45" tall. Can you imagine the Plus sized >>>>> iPhone being shorter than the iPhone 8? That would be awesome. >>>>> >>>>> Apple tried to split the difference between the 7 and 7 Plus, but >>>>> for a lot of Plus owners it feels like a step backwards. If Apple >>>>> had shrunk the bezels on the 4.7" and 5.5" phones, everyone would >>>>> have been happy. A lot of 4.7" owners would have upgraded to the 5.5" >>>>> phone, but this would have been offset by 4.0" SE owners upgrading >>>>> to the 4.7" phone. >>>>> >>>>> If Apple had simply shrunk the bezels on their screens, one-handed >>>>> use would have been possible on the 4.7" phone and easier on a 5.5" >>>>> screen than the current tall 5.8" screen. I thought the benefit of >>>>> a narrow phone was that it was easier to use one-handed? If I need >>>>> to use two hands, I might as well get the benefit of a wider screen. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Now that Apple has started down the road of tall narrow screens, >>>>> I'm not so sure that the rumored "X Plus" next year is going be the >>>>> phone that I want. >>>>> It'll probably be an improvement over the current 5.8" X, but it's >>>>> not going to be the small-bezel 5.5" screen that I want. There's no >>>>> way that Apple could make the X Plus screen smaller than the X. >>>>> That means that any X Plus screen is probably going to be even >>>>> taller and harder to use. Apple will probably make an X Plus phone >>>>> that is no shorter in height than the 8 Plus or maybe even slightly >>>>> taller. >>>>> Again, not what I want. Height is the worst thing about the current >>>>> Plus. >>>>> >>>>> I still think that the iPhone X is the best phone on the market, >>>>> bar none. >>>>> It has the best screen quality, and I'm seriously wanting that >>>>> optical 2x camera lens with optical image stabilization. Also, as a >>>>> runner who can never get TouchID to work after a sweaty summer run, >>>>> to me FaceID looks like a Godsend. I just wish that Apple had >>>>> shrunk the bodies around the screens and not grown the screens to >>>>> fill the bodies. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Original Article at: >>>>> https://apple.news/AmgzDuT9GSQub3tU-YyzeqA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>> iPhone list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>> the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>> [email protected]. 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