Hi Kirsten,

You can change the voice under Internationals and keep the date format you
prefer. In International you can change the following settings independently
from each other:

Language: this is the default language used by Voiceover
Voice Control: this is the language you set for SIRI or stand-along voice
dialing
Keyboards: here you can select multiple keyboards and order them in the same
way you can order the voices in the language rotor. I just use the main
English keyboard and the Emoji keyboard to have easy access to emoticons. By
the way, just noticed you can delete items here by flicking down, i.e. the
new actions rotor works here.
Region Format: Here you can select your country and this determines how your
date and time is formatted/displayed. If you change this and then flick past
the "Calendar" setting you find a "region Format Example" which displays how
the date, time and phone numbers are formatted. 

I am in Canada, so I have the voice set to just English which means I use
the Samantha HQ voice, I have SIRI set to "English Canada" and the region
format also to Canada although I think that is pretty much the same as US.
However, if you are in England and want to use Samantha I don't see why you
can't select "English" as the language instead of British English, then set
SIRI to English UK to make she understands your limy accent *smile* and the
region format to United Kingdom.


Hope that helps,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Kirsten Edmondson
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VO in iOS six question

Thanks Sieghard, I wasn't quite sure how reordering worked and this explains
it brilliantly and thoroughly! It won't solve my default issue though, as I
don't want to change the international settings and change the date etc.  I
have reported it  to Apple though and maybe they will do something  about
it. It was never a problem in five, so I don't know what they've done to
make voice-over start in  your default language on start-up now. :( As for
the difference between high-quality and compact, I am getting used to the
change of pitch, I couldn't notice the difference between HQ and compact
though I have had them off and on invariably, I quite like the fact that
when you delete a letter it is at a lower pitch and when you insert one it's
at a higher pitch, I don't know if this is new to iOS six or the voice was
never differentiated enough before but I never noticed it before.

Kirsten 

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Sep 2012, at 17:25, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Stan,
> 
> You can reorder the languages in the language rotor. Here are the 
> steps (these also apply to reordering Favourites in the Phone app and 
> in some other areas I can't think of right now):
> 
> Go to the Language rotor. I will use the example of US English and 
> British English.
> 
> You have the list of languages down the left side and to the right of 
> each language is a button which Voiceover announces as "Reorder US 
> English Button, Dragable" or "British English button, Dragable".
> 
> Also, those languages that are selected to appear in the language 
> rotor will say "Selected", e.g. "Selected, US English" or "Selected,
British English".
> If any are selected you don't want or if there are some you want that 
> are not selected, just double tap on the language on the left side and 
> it will be selected or deselected.
> 
> Now, in order to put US English at the top of the list, find it in the 
> list on the left, then flick right to the "Reorder US English button". 
> If you have "Speak Hints" enabled in the main Voiceover settings (it's 
> the first item after "Practice Area) Voiceover will say the following 
> after you flick to the Reorder button:
> 
> Double tap and hold, wait for the sound, then drag to rearrange
> 
> So, once you are on the reorder button, double tap and hold it until 
> you hear the TriTone just as you would do to move an app or remove an 
> app from the app switcher. After the tone sounds just drag your finger 
> straight up on the screen without lifting it first.
> 
> Each time you drag a language above the one before it in the list you 
> hear a short metallic sounding ping and Voiceover will announce "Moved 
> above and the name of the language". For example, let's assume you 
> have British English at the very top of the list, then you have 
> Australian English and then US English (I am using the English 
> languages as examples, keep in mind that any other languages like 
> French, German, Dutch etc. will be spoken in their language, so German is
spoken not as "German" but as "Deutsch".
> 
> In my example you want to drag US English first above Australian 
> English and then above British English.
> 
> 1. Double tap and hold on the "Reorder US English Button and wait for 
> the tone"
> 2. Drag your finger straight up slowly and by just a small distance.
> 3. You will hear a ping and Voiceover will say "Moved above Australian 
> English".
> 4. Drag on a bit further and you hear "Moved above British English".
> 
> Once you reach the top you can continue dragging and nothing happens, 
> no more pings, no more announcements since you can't go any further.
> 
> Now you can exit Settings and if you turn to the language rotor the 
> languages will now appear in the order you set, your default language 
> is always first and then the rest. Please note, this will not make 
> whichever language you put at the top your default language, this you 
> have to change in "Settings", "International".
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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