It means "Mobil Virtual Network Operator". These are companies like Koodo, Virgin or Fido here in Canada who are mobil carriers, but they don't have their own networks/infrastructure but lease wireless telephone and data services from Bell, Roger and Telus.
Unfortunately here in Canada each of the big 3 owns one of the MVNO's, Bell owns Virgin, Rogers owns Fido and Telus owns Koodo and this does somewhat reduce the competitive edge these MVNO's bring to other markets. I think out east you have Wind mobil and maybe a couple of others who are still independent. In the States there is a whole bunch of MVNO's, Consumer Cellular, Cricket, FreedomPop, Straight Talk are some of the more well-known companies, some like Straight Talk offer service on all 4 major networks, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobil and Verizon. According to this Wikipedia article about the List of United States MVNO's<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators> there are over 90 of them. Most countries in Europe also have a bunch of them which results in much greater competition hence usually lower prices. Canada is often mentioned as having some of the most expensive internet, wireless phone and TV service and that might be true, but one thing one should not forget is that it is of course easier to maintain all that infrastructure and have a lot of customers in countries which are much smaller and have a lot more population. Our carriers also are expected to provide service in all these remote places where they only have a few customers and that is not easy. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Robin,, I noticed you used the same term in your message as Sieghard did, "MVNO". What does that term mean? Victor -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, No worries that's why I included a laugh in parentheses in lieu of an emoticon. I'm just glad there are many choices to suit different circumstances and tastes. MBNO's, prepaid plans, lease like or payment plan type contracts or the ability to not succumb to the latest and greatest. whether it's with off the shelf tech or blind specific devices I'm just glad for as many options as humanly possible. That is always a good thing as is saving money or at the very least fitting comfortably into one's budget too. Take good care. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Robin, didn't mean to offer any offence, I honestly thought there was some leasing plan offered by the manufacturer that allowed you to lease your phone for a certain amount every month, then upgrade when a new iteration of your device was released, sort of like I had wish that Window eyes would do, until they quickly went out of business when my Jaws SMA was up. LOL. I was also saying this because if the manufacturers were offering such an offer, I would take advantage of it in a heartbeat. LOL. I'm also kind of really jealous. I told Sieghard offer-list that until a month ago, I was paying upwards of 130 dollars Canadian for my plan which offered me six gigs of data, visual voicemail, unlimited calling to the US and Canada, and global texting. I paid that amount for several years, almost a decade until I switched to Android and was able to change and get a better deal with a more local carrier. I was reading about all the incredible plans people were getting from the US, and some in Canada, and that green giant, Jealousy, would inevitably lurch up and chomp my ass for staying with the same ridiculous plan for so many years. What's worse is that on top of that, I was making all kinds of excuses as to why I was continuing to pay that much until I realized they were just that, excuses. LOL. Victor -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, Goodness gracious me I wasn't aware I'd walked into a pop quiz on semantics this night (laughs). While it's true there are early termination fees with these perhaps more aptly termed plans or contracts as you say since I hadn't plans to switch carriers or the like they work for me. This year I'll pay precisely $444 for the use of my device for 12 months plus its associated sales taxes. the other associated costs of my plan such as line charges data and other sundry surcharges levied upon us by governmental entities would remain as they are regardless. I only used the term lease for in my estimation that which I'm doing with my device is no different than that which those I know who lease vehicles are doing in essence hence the use albeit not so precise terminology. I hope that clarifies. By no means am I saying this is the best option for anyone merely that which I chose and mentioned in the context of explaining why my battery issues might not mirror those of others due to their age. Take good care. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Those are not leases, those are commitments and usually go with plans. I was under the impression these device leases were separate from the plan, and one gets to upgrade every year or new release, which ever comes first. What you describe is no different from the contracts currently offered now. Is this new terminology being used for commitments or contracts? Victor -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, It is through my carrier Many of the carriers in the USA offer plans whereby you can make monthly payments and either upgrade after 12 or 24 months. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Robin, is this leasing plan from the manufacturer or the carrier? Victor -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, Hardly (laughs). I just use one of the plans that let you lease as it were the device and upgrade annually so I don't have to pay anything up front and never in fact reach paying the entire cost of one before trading it in (smile). If I win the lottery I'll buy you an iPhone annually if you buy me new windows and siding when you win how's that (smile)? Robin -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 6:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hey Robin, a new iPhone every year, you must be loaded, how about you buy me an iPhone X, 256 Gb please *smile* -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, While I don't dispute that which was said by an employee of Apple I have to say I have an iPhone here that spends most of its life on its charger as it's my beta testing unit and for the past 18 months it's had not one single problem or displayed any evidence of swelling. I should also note that my units are usually upgraded annually so I'm never working with older batteries either. Robin -----Original Message----- From: MamaPeach Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time This actually happened with two of my iPods, one was a 5 generation and one was a 6, I had the 6th generation one fixed, but not the 5th generation. I had them both plugged up most of the time and the tech said that it was me keeping the device plugged up all the time that was the problem. Why else would the battery swell on two different generations of iPods? What else could have caused it if not keeping them plugged up? The 6th generation was fairly new. I wanted to get them both fixed, but just the one cost me $150 to get repaired. -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time My laptop is always plugged in since I rarely use it away from the house and the same was true with my previousl laptop and even after over 5 years it still holds a decent charge when I do unplug it. As other said, modern batteries can handle this easily and the problem with the battery that swelled surely was a different issue and would eventually have happened regardless. After all look at the Note 7 disaster where devices which weren't even plugged in at all burst into flames. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off, there is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so leaving it connected to a charger should be fine. Original message: > Hello everyone > Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger all > the time? > I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many: > charge cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore. > I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge the > device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about leaving > it on the charger for all of the time. Obviously though, I would take > it off if I had to go out somewhere. > Thanks in advance for anyone who can clear up if leaving on charge is > either good: or bad for the overall health of an iPhone 8 battery. > Daniel > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to > viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
