No offense Victor, but that $150 Android phone from China may sound like it has similar hardware, but there is a reason why the iPhone still blows away even the high-end Android phones in most speed tests and they nowadays cost just as much an most iPhones. But I agree that it is tempting and if your Android does what you want then that is great. I am almost certain, though, that you will not use your relatively inexpensive Android phone for 4 years and if you do there is a pretty good chance you are going to be way behind when it comes to software. As I said earlier, I am going into year 3 now with my 6S Plus, I'm on the latest iOS update, my phone runs absolutely great and while my battery at this point seems to be pretty good, I'd be stupid not to take advantage of Apple's $35 offer to get a new battery at some point this year. Even if I end up getting a new iPhone this September or October, being able to show that the phone has a new battery combined with the fact that It's almost always in a case and has a glass screen protector which means it's cosmetically virtually in mint condition will go a long way to getting a higher price for it when I sell it.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Sieghard, Android just wasn't in my comfort zone at that time two years ago. I had tried a phone running Android 2.2, and that turned me off, then when I tried Android 4.4, Talkback had made great strides in getting better than Android 2.2, but again, the accessibility just wasn't as good as an iPhone. Eventually, I just couldn't ignore how great the unlimited plans were getting, and since I hadn't tried Android's Talkback in a few Android versions, I got a hold of a newer Android running Android 6.0 and I noticed that Talkback had gotten better. Admittedly, some of the gestures took me some time to get used to, and I still haven't gotten fully used to the double gestures, but alas, the ability to customize the gestures, the half price, even a third of the price phones as good, if not better than the iPhone and the expanded storage just became too much of a draw for me, and so, I madder the switch fully last month. I still had to lapse my contract with my current carrier, and besides, my wife was using that iPhone, or rather, my daughter was, as my wife and I had given the phone to her, and we both adopted the Android way, not to be confused with the Jedi sort of way. LOL. My point in all of this was that the cheaper companies did not have an iPhone as part of their line-up, so I had to buy a phone outright, or adopt Android. Sort of no choice, really. When one can get an Android phone with the same hardware specs as the iPhone from China for only 150 dollars American, you quickly find out how low your budget really is. Sheepish Grin. Victor -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi Victor, But what has your plan to do with Android? I have my $49 plan from Koodo which of course I was only able to get if I brought a device, but it makes no difference if said device is an iPhone or Android phone. I was on a Telus plan before and had a locked Telus phone, the interesting thing is that since Koodo is owned by Telus a phone that Is locked to Telus will actually work with Koodo although I did end up with an unlocked iPhone 6S Plus after I lost mine 2 winters ago in the snow and never found it again until the snow was gone 4 months later. Fortunately I have my phone insured as a separate item through my home insurance with only a $100 deductable and they paid me the full price of what the iPhone 6S then cost, $1,029 and that is when I decided to upgrade to a 6S Plus which I bought from an Apple Store unlocked. Of course I was still on my 2-year Telus plan, it ended last January and then my wife and I switched to Koodo. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Robin, didn't mean to offer any offence, I honestly thought there was some leasing plan offered by the manufacturer that allowed you to lease your phone for a certain amount every month, then upgrade when a new iteration of your device was released, sort of like I had wish that Window eyes would do, until they quickly went out of business when my Jaws SMA was up. LOL. I was also saying this because if the manufacturers were offering such an offer, I would take advantage of it in a heartbeat. LOL. I'm also kind of really jealous. I told Sieghard offer-list that until a month ago, I was paying upwards of 130 dollars Canadian for my plan which offered me six gigs of data, visual voicemail, unlimited calling to the US and Canada, and global texting. I paid that amount for several years, almost a decade until I switched to Android and was able to change and get a better deal with a more local carrier. I was reading about all the incredible plans people were getting from the US, and some in Canada, and that green giant, Jealousy, would inevitably lurch up and chomp my ass for staying with the same ridiculous plan for so many years. What's worse is that on top of that, I was making all kinds of excuses as to why I was continuing to pay that much until I realized they were just that, excuses. LOL. Victor -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, Goodness gracious me I wasn't aware I'd walked into a pop quiz on semantics this night (laughs). While it's true there are early termination fees with these perhaps more aptly termed plans or contracts as you say since I hadn't plans to switch carriers or the like they work for me. This year I'll pay precisely $444 for the use of my device for 12 months plus its associated sales taxes. the other associated costs of my plan such as line charges data and other sundry surcharges levied upon us by governmental entities would remain as they are regardless. I only used the term lease for in my estimation that which I'm doing with my device is no different than that which those I know who lease vehicles are doing in essence hence the use albeit not so precise terminology. I hope that clarifies. By no means am I saying this is the best option for anyone merely that which I chose and mentioned in the context of explaining why my battery issues might not mirror those of others due to their age. Take good care. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Those are not leases, those are commitments and usually go with plans. I was under the impression these device leases were separate from the plan, and one gets to upgrade every year or new release, which ever comes first. What you describe is no different from the contracts currently offered now. Is this new terminology being used for commitments or contracts? Victor -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, It is through my carrier Many of the carriers in the USA offer plans whereby you can make monthly payments and either upgrade after 12 or 24 months. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Robin, is this leasing plan from the manufacturer or the carrier? Victor -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, Hardly (laughs). I just use one of the plans that let you lease as it were the device and upgrade annually so I don't have to pay anything up front and never in fact reach paying the entire cost of one before trading it in (smile). If I win the lottery I'll buy you an iPhone annually if you buy me new windows and siding when you win how's that (smile)? Robin -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 6:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hey Robin, a new iPhone every year, you must be loaded, how about you buy me an iPhone X, 256 Gb please *smile* -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time Hi, While I don't dispute that which was said by an employee of Apple I have to say I have an iPhone here that spends most of its life on its charger as it's my beta testing unit and for the past 18 months it's had not one single problem or displayed any evidence of swelling. I should also note that my units are usually upgraded annually so I'm never working with older batteries either. Robin -----Original Message----- From: MamaPeach Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time This actually happened with two of my iPods, one was a 5 generation and one was a 6, I had the 6th generation one fixed, but not the 5th generation. I had them both plugged up most of the time and the tech said that it was me keeping the device plugged up all the time that was the problem. Why else would the battery swell on two different generations of iPods? What else could have caused it if not keeping them plugged up? The 6th generation was fairly new. I wanted to get them both fixed, but just the one cost me $150 to get repaired. -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time My laptop is always plugged in since I rarely use it away from the house and the same was true with my previousl laptop and even after over 5 years it still holds a decent charge when I do unplug it. As other said, modern batteries can handle this easily and the problem with the battery that swelled surely was a different issue and would eventually have happened regardless. After all look at the Note 7 disaster where devices which weren't even plugged in at all burst into flames. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off, there is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so leaving it connected to a charger should be fine. Original message: > Hello everyone > Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger all > the time? > I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many: > charge cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore. > I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge the > device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about leaving > it on the charger for all of the time. 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