Well, for whatever it maybe worth, I have decided to return my BI14 that was on loan. I just don’t like the keyboard. And frankly, I don’t think the 14 cell display is what I want. I don’t think they make what I want, because I don’t need 40. I want something that does have notetaking capability, but 40 is too darn expensive! Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:41 PM, Sadam Ahmed <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The exchange rate hits hard. > Baum made excellent displays, pity the firm crashed. > 14 seems to be the new 18. > >> On 8/14/2018 5:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price >> difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale >> display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they >> would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so >> darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> You're welcome Mary. >>> >>> >>> I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on >>> that unit is great. >>> >>> >>> I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to >>> send it back myself. >>> >>> >>> The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. >>> >>> >>> Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. >>> >>> >>> Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD >>> that Humanware charge. >>> >>> >>> Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> Sadam Ahmed >>> >>> >>>> On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A >>>> friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the >>>> keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout >>>> in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try >>>> to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I >>>> will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before >>>> laying out that kind of money. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order >>>>> placement. >>>>> >>>>> They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. >>>>> >>>>> The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very >>>>> mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. >>>>> >>>>> It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my >>>>> phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. >>>>> >>>>> Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. >>>>> just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> >>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>> >>>>>> On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to >>>>>> an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is >>>>>> so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote >>>>>> that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to >>>>>> me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old >>>>>> system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would >>>>>> be curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 >>>>>> on your Apple TV. >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation >>>>>>> focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided >>>>>>> to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on >>>>>>> it. It has some note taking capability and works very well with the >>>>>>> computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two >>>>>>> Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the >>>>>>> 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when >>>>>>> using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like >>>>>>> being able to connect it to several devices at once. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still >>>>>>> not working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing >>>>>>> it as I already have the Braille Sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you >>>>>>> sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in >>>>>>> the word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this >>>>>>> to be the case on other displays as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Barry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? >>>>>>>> Have you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My >>>>>>>> do you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays >>>>>>>> you might have used? >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for >>>>>>>>> example go into your google Account and make sure that notes is >>>>>>>>> turned on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure >>>>>>>>> that you are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your >>>>>>>>> note should link up the next time you turn the device on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the >>>>>>>>> notes are turned on within your account. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hope this helps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Barryy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the >>>>>>>>>> compactness, but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to >>>>>>>>>> having so few cells. Especially with word wrap I guess, where >>>>>>>>>> sometimes, several cells are blank because the next whole word won’t >>>>>>>>>> fit on the line. I also don’t quite understand how the notes feature >>>>>>>>>> works. I have entered both my Google and Comcast accounts into the >>>>>>>>>> brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens next. I have read >>>>>>>>>> the manual. My other comment is that I preferred the keyboard on the >>>>>>>>>> older humanware braille displays. The typing keys on this one are to >>>>>>>>>> my way of thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I probably won’t buy it, but >>>>>>>>>> I do want to give it a fair chance. I like the price, and I like the >>>>>>>>>> idea of having notetaking ability which I could, or not, sync up >>>>>>>>>> with my phone. 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