Any such compendium would be out of date within a short time after
compilation because there are constantly new entries coming out in the
field. You might want to go to www.blindbargains.com and peruse their
articles and podcasts that relate to the exhibits at the recent ACB and NFB
conventions as well as the CSUN conference in March of this year.
Andy
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From: "Susie Stageberg" <sstagebe...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Bi14 experiences?
I am still pondering which Braille display to get; 14 cells just doesn't
seem like very many to tell you what the phone is doing. On the other hand,
it would be compact and easy to toss in a bag. I looked at the Orbit, and
it's a cute little device, but it's bigger than I thought it would be, as
far as front-to-back. I realize I am spoiled by the 70-cell Alva I use on
the desktop and the 32-cell BrailleNote. Maybe 14 isn't so bad?
Is there someplace where someone has reviewed all the different displays
that you can use with the phone? The NFB used to do this ...
Susie
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bi14 experiences?
The exchange rate hits hard.
Baum made excellent displays, pity the firm crashed.
14 seems to be the new 18.
On 8/14/2018 5:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price
difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale
display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they
would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so
darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect.
Mary
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On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed <li...@sadamahmed.com> wrote:
You're welcome Mary.
I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on
that unit is great.
I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to
send it back myself.
The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic.
Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't
loud.
Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the
$1350AUD that Humanware charge.
Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go.
Best,
Sadam Ahmed
On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A
friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like
the keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar
layout in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting
tomorrow and try to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy
keyboard. If not, I will reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can
see a focus before laying out that kind of money.
Mary
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On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed <li...@sadamahmed.com> wrote:
I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order
placement.
They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door.
The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very
mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use.
It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in
Australia.
Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my
phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to.
Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to
buy. just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering.
All the best,
Sadam Ahmed
On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display
to an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because
it is so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch
remote that they have on the fourth generation and following has not
appeal to me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as
the old system was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing
something. I would be curious to know how you are making things
efficient with your BI 14 on your Apple TV.
Mary
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On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott <bpabbo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first
generation focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my
wife's. I decided to keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping :
fidential information on it. It has some note taking capability and
works very well with the computer.
I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two
Apple TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on
the 14 cell display. But I do like the portability and the joystick
when using it with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I
also like being able to connect it to several devices at once.
My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still
not working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into
fixing it as I already have the Braille Sense.
One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you
sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in
the word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this
to be the case on other displays as well.
Barry
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On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length?
Have you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My
do you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays
you might have used?
Mary
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On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott <bpabbo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for
example go into your google Account and make sure that notes is
turned on.
Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure
that you are in the Gmail folder when you write the note.
Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your
note should link up the next time you turn the device on.
The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that
the notes are turned on within your account.
I hope this helps.
Barryy
Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi all,
I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the
compactness, but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to
having so few cells. Especially with word wrap I guess, where
sometimes, several cells are blank because the next whole word won’t
fit on the line. I also don’t quite understand how the notes
feature works. I have entered both my Google and Comcast accounts
into the brailliant device. But I’m not sure what happens next. I
have read the manual. My other comment is that I preferred the
keyboard on the older humanware braille displays. The typing keys
on this one are to my way of thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I
probably won’t buy it, but I do want to give it a fair chance. I
like the price, and I like the idea of having notetaking ability
which I could, or not, sync up with my phone. But I’m just not
getting the mechanics of it I guess.
Mary
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