G I G O certainly fits as well. I have not heard that since the 1980s. I modified Problem between Keyboard and Chair that I heard many years ago from a computer tech support person to fit the smart devices …
Richard “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Battery issues with new iPhone 8 I call it G I G O, it was what my computer science professor used to say back in the day of 5.25 inch floppy disks and 40 Megabyte hard drives (about 1989) and it means “Garbage In Garbage Out” From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 9:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Battery issues with new iPhone 8 In my experience, especially with iOS, people don’t always catch what is said and accidently turn things like Screen Time on or think they have to use a passcode because they missed the passcode options button, when updating. iOS is the most consistent operating system I’ve ever dealt with so these kinds of variations are usually user created. This could be called a PBCAS, (Problem between Chair And Screen) grin. Richard “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Battery issues with new iPhone 8 It was definitely not on after I upgraded to iOS 12. There was an offer to set it up, which I declined. And it’s not on. I wonder why it’s different for different people. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2018, at 11:51 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time. But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement. That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night. Nor, my 8 plus for work. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — Jane Wagner On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes. I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go. I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update. HTH, Richard “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> Subject: Battery issues with new iPhone 8 I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? 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