I mostly agree with this post, but I see that some gratuitous Samsung bashing had to be introduced. I wouldn't assume that Samsungs foldable phone will be awful, although as the first foldable phone to hit the market, I'm sure it'll improve over time. I also wouldn't be too worried about Samsung batteries exploding, but of course, it never gets old when someone brings that up! I do think there will be some sticker shock for this phone, but that's true with all of the flagship phones, including Apple's. For me, I'm really curious to get my hands on this phone when it comes out, but even though I'm ready for a new phone, I doubt it'll be the first foldable phone. I'm not even sure if I'll stick with Android or switch back to Apple for my next phone.

On 1/24/19 12:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Let's just say everybody needs to decide if they need a smart fridge or any other smart appliance for that matter. I agree that in many cases when an appliance which previously people had for say 15 or 20 years or even longer becomes a technological gadget in addition to the appliance then it may need to be replaced or upgraded if possible sooner. TV's are a good example. Back in the 80's and even earlier people would buy a TV and typically expect to have this thing for 15 or 20 years or until the tubes wore out. In the last 10 to 15 years since TV technology start really changing this is less likely. First there were LCD and Plasma and people who bought a Plasma TV say in 2007 probably regretted it 5 years later when it was clear that LCD was the winner. Now LED and OLED is what it is and it's a thing between HD (1080P) and 4K and now 8K and of course now we start to see TV's which can roll up and TV's with built-in digital assistants etc. I bought a Sony LCD TV in 2007, it is a 40 inch size and at the time it was upper mid range and cost $1,600 Canadian. Now I can buy an equivalent TV in terms of screen quality and size for $400 or $500 and for $800 to $1,200 (I am talking Canadian dollars) I can buy a 50 inch LED TV.

The point is that just because I can doesn't mean I will. My 12-year old Sony LCD TV still works great, the picture quality according to my wife is still good and where we have the TV I could probably fit a 50 inch TV if it is one with virtually no bezel around the outside, but that's probably it, there just is no room for anything larger than that. So, until there is a bit more stability again as the technology matures I will wait just as I won't buy a new smartphone for probably at least 3 years and maybe 4 now that we have just upgraded to the iPhone 8. Let them figure out first where they are going with these new CPU's and screens which apparently could support Touch Id anywhere on the screen, Face Id, foldable displays and all that. Sounds like Samsung will be first to market with a foldable phone this year, but you better believe that it won't be that great and maybe it's going to be another exploding battery party. One thing I like about Apple is that if they introduce something it will for the most part work. Of course maybe there are cases where they come out with something which is a one-year wonder, but just look at Touch Id and Face Id, both existed before, both were never that great in most other implementations and when Apple put them in their phones they were solid and reliable.

Many said smart fridges are a stupid idea and all that and they don't need it and they get along just fine without smart appliances and all that. I could say the same thing for smartphones and cell phones in general. When I grew  up back in Germany in the 70's we had one rotary dial phone in the house. There was no call waiting, call display, answering machine or voice mail or cordless option. When the phone rang and somebody heard it they would go there and answer with our last name and if nobody heard it then it would just ring and eventually the other party would hang up and try later. What was wrong with that?

It's human nature that we want more and better technology, whether it's always good is up to everybody to decide. At CES they said Kohler now had a smart toilet with built-in speakers, a seat which heats up and built-in voice control so you can ask it to raise or lower the lid, flush etc. Now, talk about a smart fridge being a stupid idea.

I have even read articles where they talked about toilets which recognize the various family members and analyse whatever it is you are depositing in them. Sounds great, eh? Imagine a woman is having a pee and the toilet says "Thanks, Sally, have a good day and by the way, congratulations, you are pregnant".

Take care,

Sieghard

*From:*[email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Cristóbal Muñoz
*Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 7:52 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: Smart appliances.

Again, I think people are kind of missing the point to the article. It’s not so much the smart features per say that are built into these appliances, but rather the support and lifespan one can reasonably expect from them.

I think smart fridges are dumb, but different strokes for different folks. Some people may want to geek out on that sort of stuff. It’s where you want to convince me to pay a super-premium for something where those particular features may be outdated faster than you can say spoiled milk. Not to mention the security risks and whatever else is coming down the road.

Dropping a couple of hundred bucks on a thermostat or connected security camera isn’t the same as a fridge, dishwasher or whatever that may cost you what you’d pay for a used car in some instances.

Cristóbal

*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Christopher Chaltain
*Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 4:47 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: Smart appliances.

Well, I would never presume to tell someone else what features they can and can't find convenient. I'd also never assume that only the features I appreciate are the only features anyone else can enjoy. I'd never call someone lazy because they take advantage of a feature that isn't important to me. I'm perfectly happy with choice and letting people choose and pay for the features they want. I'd let the market place decide what customers want and don't want and wouldn't leave it up to one or two people who think they know what's best for everyone.

I don't have an InstantPot, but I don't call someone lazy because they find it easier to use an app then the controls on a pressure cooker. I personally don't have a big need to control my lights from an app, but I don't criticize those who do. I no longer consider myself lazy because I use a remote to control my TV and home theater system even though I could walk up to my TV and receiver and control everything from there. I do think it would be nice to control my thermostat from an app or a smart speaker, as well as monitor the progress of my clothes, and if people want to call me lazy for doing that then I think that says more about them then it does about my laziness.

On 1/24/19 5:42 AM, Jenny Bomareto wrote:

    I  totally agree with Mary and other people that don’t have these
    smart appliances.

    It’s making you lazy when you aren’t doing like you did things
    back in the day.  It’s not going to hurt you to get off your rear
    and do the stuff that need to be done. Everybody needs exercise.

    Matt and I   don’t have these smart appliances where the echo has
    to be used in order for the appliances to perform. Both of us do
    our daily tasks just fine.

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