Now a toilet randomly playing music when you sit on it sounds kind of creepy.
> On Jan 24, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: > > I mostly agree with this post, but I see that some gratuitous Samsung bashing > had to be introduced. I wouldn't assume that Samsungs foldable phone will be > awful, although as the first foldable phone to hit the market, I'm sure it'll > improve over time. I also wouldn't be too worried about Samsung batteries > exploding, but of course, it never gets old when someone brings that up! I do > think there will be some sticker shock for this phone, but that's true with > all of the flagship phones, including Apple's. For me, I'm really curious to > get my hands on this phone when it comes out, but even though I'm ready for a > new phone, I doubt it'll be the first foldable phone. I'm not even sure if > I'll stick with Android or switch back to Apple for my next phone. > > > >> On 1/24/19 12:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Let's just say everybody needs to decide if they need a smart fridge or any >> other smart appliance for that matter. I agree that in many cases when an >> appliance which previously people had for say 15 or 20 years or even longer >> becomes a technological gadget in addition to the appliance then it may need >> to be replaced or upgraded if possible sooner. TV's are a good example. Back >> in the 80's and even earlier people would buy a TV and typically expect to >> have this thing for 15 or 20 years or until the tubes wore out. In the last >> 10 to 15 years since TV technology start really changing this is less >> likely. First there were LCD and Plasma and people who bought a Plasma TV >> say in 2007 probably regretted it 5 years later when it was clear that LCD >> was the winner. Now LED and OLED is what it is and it's a thing between HD >> (1080P) and 4K and now 8K and of course now we start to see TV's which can >> roll up and TV's with built-in digital assistants etc. I bought a Sony LCD >> TV in 2007, it is a 40 inch size and at the time it was upper mid range and >> cost $1,600 Canadian. Now I can buy an equivalent TV in terms of screen >> quality and size for $400 or $500 and for $800 to $1,200 (I am talking >> Canadian dollars) I can buy a 50 inch LED TV. >> The point is that just because I can doesn't mean I will. My 12-year old >> Sony LCD TV still works great, the picture quality according to my wife is >> still good and where we have the TV I could probably fit a 50 inch TV if it >> is one with virtually no bezel around the outside, but that's probably it, >> there just is no room for anything larger than that. So, until there is a >> bit more stability again as the technology matures I will wait just as I >> won't buy a new smartphone for probably at least 3 years and maybe 4 now >> that we have just upgraded to the iPhone 8. Let them figure out first where >> they are going with these new CPU's and screens which apparently could >> support Touch Id anywhere on the screen, Face Id, foldable displays and all >> that. Sounds like Samsung will be first to market with a foldable phone this >> year, but you better believe that it won't be that great and maybe it's >> going to be another exploding battery party. One thing I like about Apple is >> that if they introduce something it will for the most part work. Of course >> maybe there are cases where they come out with something which is a one-year >> wonder, but just look at Touch Id and Face Id, both existed before, both >> were never that great in most other implementations and when Apple put them >> in their phones they were solid and reliable. >> Many said smart fridges are a stupid idea and all that and they don't need >> it and they get along just fine without smart appliances and all that. I >> could say the same thing for smartphones and cell phones in general. When I >> grew up back in Germany in the 70's we had one rotary dial phone in the >> house. There was no call waiting, call display, answering machine or voice >> mail or cordless option. When the phone rang and somebody heard it they >> would go there and answer with our last name and if nobody heard it then it >> would just ring and eventually the other party would hang up and try later. >> What was wrong with that? >> It's human nature that we want more and better technology, whether it's >> always good is up to everybody to decide. At CES they said Kohler now had a >> smart toilet with built-in speakers, a seat which heats up and built-in >> voice control so you can ask it to raise or lower the lid, flush etc. Now, >> talk about a smart fridge being a stupid idea. >> I have even read articles where they talked about toilets which recognize >> the various family members and analyse whatever it is you are depositing in >> them. Sounds great, eh? Imagine a woman is having a pee and the toilet says >> "Thanks, Sally, have a good day and by the way, congratulations, you are >> pregnant". >> >> Take care, >> Sieghard >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Cristóbal Muñoz >> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 7:52 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Smart appliances. >> >> Again, I think people are kind of missing the point to the article. It’s not >> so much the smart features per say that are built into these appliances, but >> rather the support and lifespan one can reasonably expect from them. >> I think smart fridges are dumb, but different strokes for different folks. >> Some people may want to geek out on that sort of stuff. It’s where you want >> to convince me to pay a super-premium for something where those particular >> features may be outdated faster than you can say spoiled milk. Not to >> mention the security risks and whatever else is coming down the road. >> Dropping a couple of hundred bucks on a thermostat or connected security >> camera isn’t the same as a fridge, dishwasher or whatever that may cost you >> what you’d pay for a used car in some instances. >> >> Cristóbal >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 4:47 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Smart appliances. >> >> Well, I would never presume to tell someone else what features they can and >> can't find convenient. I'd also never assume that only the features I >> appreciate are the only features anyone else can enjoy. I'd never call >> someone lazy because they take advantage of a feature that isn't important >> to me. I'm perfectly happy with choice and letting people choose and pay for >> the features they want. I'd let the market place decide what customers want >> and don't want and wouldn't leave it up to one or two people who think they >> know what's best for everyone. >> >> >> >> I don't have an InstantPot, but I don't call someone lazy because they find >> it easier to use an app then the controls on a pressure cooker. I personally >> don't have a big need to control my lights from an app, but I don't >> criticize those who do. I no longer consider myself lazy because I use a >> remote to control my TV and home theater system even though I could walk up >> to my TV and receiver and control everything from there. I do think it would >> be nice to control my thermostat from an app or a smart speaker, as well as >> monitor the progress of my clothes, and if people want to call me lazy for >> doing that then I think that says more about them then it does about my >> laziness. >> >> >> >> On 1/24/19 5:42 AM, Jenny Bomareto wrote: >> I totally agree with Mary >> and other people that don’t have these smart appliances. >> >> It’s making you lazy when you aren’t doing like you did things back in the >> day. It’s not going to hurt you to get off your rear and do the stuff that >> need to be done. Everybody needs exercise. >> >> Matt and I don’t have these smart appliances where the echo has to be used >> in order for the appliances to perform. 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