I was actually glad to hear about the era update. Right now, I cannot afford to use this service. If my situation should change, I would definitely consider using this service. I am actually glad to hear about any apps that come out and how accessible they might be. Michael
Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:29 AM, Michael Malver <mmal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree with people who say that they would not be able to afford Aira on a > monthly basis, as I am one of them. Nonetheless, this is AN app I feel > everybody should download. It is free to keep on your phone, and there are > businesses who allow you to use the service with out having a monthly > membership. I have used Aira twice now at target stores, and have found the > tool helpful. > Just my two cents. > > Michael > >> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Linda. Well said. >> >> Dave. >> >> >> From: Lynda Ingraham >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:42 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Aira >> >> David, >> >> I really wish I hadn't opened your message. >> >> It is really sad that you believe so little of blind and visually impaired >> people who do not live life according to your standards. >> >> Just because people have family or friends in and out of their homes on a >> daily basis, it does not mean they should be expected to constantly depend >> on those individuals for assistance. Sighted individuals have a right to >> privacy, so do individuals with print disabilities. Have you ever heard of >> identity theft? Not to smart to ask just anyone to read investment and >> banking statements. I also have a right not to have those same individuals >> read medical information. It is my choice when and how I share that >> information with family and friends. It sounds like you would be totally >> confortable having a stranger at the bus stop read your prostate test >> results. Good for you, that is your choice. The rest of us don't have to >> make friends and family feel like every time they come in our house we need >> help with something. It is all about choice. >> >> Regarding technology "getting out-of-hand," another judgment based on your >> personal needs without a thought of how this technology could help >> individuals with multiple disabilities. As a deaf-blind person, Aira has >> helped me to travel more independently. >> >> What totally boggles my mind is for years, blind and visually impaired >> individuals have struggled for the right to make personal choices. Some of >> the anger towards the development of technology as Aira, Be My Eyes etc. is >> quite shocking. Your description of other blind people as lazy is >> disgusting. There isn't a single sighted person that has seen me use any of >> these services that couldn't appreciate the independence and freedom of >> choice attached to the product. >> >> Go wave your prostate results at the bus stop for someone to read and leave >> the rest of us alone that choose a different path than yours. >> >> Lynda >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of David Moore >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:10 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Aira >> >> Hi Andy, >> I totally agree as well. >> How many blind people can afford $200.00 or more a month to get unlimited >> service to have an entire play at the theater described for them. >> The people who are so passionate about this service, don’t realize that the >> blind are 70 percent unemployed. >> What about those people? >> I went to the Ohio State University and went everywhere I wanted to go with >> my good, old cane, and I do so today. >> Technology is just getting out of hand, I think. >> It is making some people lazy. >> Also, why are blind people alone all of the time. >> I hear so many blind people say that they are alone here and there, and they >> need this service. >> I always have people around everywhere I go , practically. >> How many sighted people go out and roam around alone. >> Another thing this brings up, is that blind people need to be with sighted >> people, instead of using a service like this. >> We are becoming a society where everyone wants to do everything for him or >> her self, instead of relying on each other. >> Many cultures would not think of doing so many things alone like we do in >> the west, and I assume Australia >> And New Zealand. >> Mexicans love to live with their extended family. >> They would not live alone if their life depended on it. >> Technology like this AIRA, are just causing people to be alone more with >> their technology. >> When I ride the bus, I am always talking to people. >> I do not even want to get on my phone! >> I love talking to strangers the whole time I am out, , not on a device. >> Thanks for putting up with my little rant. >> Sometimes, I think the blind were better off, when they had to get a reader >> to read everything to them, and they had to remember it or take good Braille >> notes as the human read to them. >> New is not always better for people! >> Have a great one, >> David Moore >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Andy Baracco >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:19 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Aira >> >> I agree! >> >> Considering that most blind people are unemployed, and that the average >> income of blind folks is well below that of those who are not blind, aiRa >> will only be feasible for a minority of blind people, thus making services >> like Be My Eyes, and platforms like MS Seeing AI a welcome alternative. >> >> Andy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" <cristobalm...@gmail.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:05 PM >> Subject: RE: Aira >> >> >> As with most things in life. You get what you pay for... >> And this isn't meant to denigrate BeMyEyes or the people who volunteer >> through the service, but keep in mind you're talking about well intentioned >> people who are still just volunteers at the end of the day. >> >> Cristóbal >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Marie >> Lyons >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:53 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Aira >> >> I can only tell you about “Be my eyes” and a difficulty I experienced. A >> volunteer said, ”over there”. That isn’t very helpful to a blind person. I >> do know of 2 stores who offer “Aira” for free: Wallgreens and Wegmanns. This >> is done by using the app on your iPhone. >> >> Marie Lyons >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Holly <fe...@comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> > Hello: >> > >> > I just joined this group yesterday. 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