Wow, what a thread filled with speculation, cries of outrage and "Good riddance" messages.
I am surprised by how many people are dismayed that eventually iTunes will go away and you may note that I said "will go away" not "might go away". For now Apple said iTunes for Windows stays around while on the Mac it is replaced with these 3 apps for music, podcasts and TV. My surprise is based on the fact that I rarely ever read anybody posting anything good or positive about iTunes, people would go through great length to try and avoid using it because many considered it to be inaccessible or very poorly accessible with a screenreader. At times that was in fact true, but for the most part Apple, Microsoft or Jaws has always fixed whatever could be fixed to make it work better again. But as I said, to me the writing is clearly on the wall and I doubt that in 2 years or maybe less iTunes for Windows will still be around. I am equally sure that there will be apps for Windows similar to those for the Mac to replace it, but I won't even try and speculate, if they are true UWP apps I could definitely see accessibility challenges ahead given the somewhat poor track record of UWP apps regarding accessibility. For those who don't know what UWP apps are, UWP stands for Universal Windows Platform and these are apps you get from the Microsoft Store and nowhere else and they are different from traditional desktop programs. There is, for example, an Audible app from the Microsoft Store which allows you to play your audible books on a PC, you can choose to stream the books or download them (no Audible Download Manager is required) and all in all it's very much like using the Audible app on the iPhone except that the Audible app for iOS is super accessible and the Windows app is not. There are scripts from Doug Lee which help, but even using the touch cursor in Jaws there are things like for example accessing the Settings which I have yet to figure out how to do. I can get into Settings and read the different tabs or categories, but activating them is a different story. When my wife clicked on any of these categories or tabs I could then again navigate them, but it's definitely far from being accessible. As for iOS 13 and the fate of iTunes I think there is no point to speculate, whenever WWDC happens they always announce stuff where they don't necessarily give all the answers this early on, let's wait and see although by now it is clear iTunes for Windows will stay around for now. As for Christopher's reference to our disagreement, I still maintain my position that Apple will not entirely want to alienate their Windows customers by completely dropping support for the platform. I didn't listen to the keynote yet, but there was talk that for the iPad Apple may make it much easier to connect external USB devices such as thumb drives or external hard drives and to access their content and speculation was whether such a feature will come to the iPhone. I don't know if the new iPad OS offers easy and native access to content on external devices, but if it does I think it again is just a matter of another year or two before iOS will follow. Given dwindling sales numbers for the iPhone Apple will be actually more concerned to be compatible with other platforms including Windows and Android. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 7:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes? You can simply backup your phone in icloud like I've been doing now for 5 years. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Chris Chaffin Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 10:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes? Not only will I miss the backup feature, but I will also miss the ability to create and sync your own ring tones. Maybe they will make a way to do this through windows. Chris. > On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > > Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had > already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also > occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store > or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will > probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but > it makes no monehy for Apple. > >> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco <[email protected]> wrote: >> From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes. They have gradually been >> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music, >> podcasts, etc. iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and >> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI >> folks >> just aren't using it. I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only >> thing i >> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having >> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose. >> >> Andy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Larry Lumpkin >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM >> Subject: apple killing ITunes? >> >> >> My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to >> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows >> program. 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