Itunes worked fairly well in 2010 or 2011, maybe even a little before that, but then it started to go down hill.
On 6/4/19, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > Two things: When I had a modern enough windows computer to run the modern > version of iTunes, I was not one of those who complained about it. The first > time I used it was in 2010, when I got an iPod Touch, which I ended up > taking back, being that I only could connect to the net via wifi, and my > Victor Reader would read every file type the iPod Touch would read, except > for the videos, which I didn't really care about anyway. But I left iTunes > on my computer, and it became my choice as a media player and cd ripping > program. When I got the iPhone 5 in 2012, working with it via iTunes was > something new to learn, but I learned it and things were fine. The worst it > ever got for iTunes for windows was in 2016, but that got straightened out, > and as I understand it, the modern version of iTunes for windows is quite > useable. > > As for iTunes for windows continuing, it would be, in my opinion, totally > dumb on Apple's part, not to have some way for windows computers to > communicate with Apple devices if Macs also can do so. Let's face it, there > are a lot more people out there using windows than Mac, and if those people > couldn't use their computers to communicate with their phones, Apple would > lose all those sales to Android, and they definitely wouldn't want that to > happen. Even if IOS sales are declining, we are still talking about millions > of units per year, and they would not want to give that market to Android. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone > > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wow, what a thread filled with speculation, cries of outrage and "Good > riddance" messages. > > I am surprised by how many people are dismayed that eventually iTunes will > go away and you may note that I said "will go away" not "might go away". For > now Apple said iTunes for Windows stays around while on the Mac it is > replaced with these 3 apps for music, podcasts and TV. My surprise is based > on the fact that I rarely ever read anybody posting anything good or > positive about iTunes, people would go through great length to try and avoid > using it because many considered it to be inaccessible or very poorly > accessible with a screenreader. At times that was in fact true, but for the > most part Apple, Microsoft or Jaws has always fixed whatever could be fixed > to make it work better again. But as I said, to me the writing is clearly on > the wall and I doubt that in 2 years or maybe less iTunes for Windows will > still be around. I am equally sure that there will be apps for Windows > similar to those for the Mac to replace it, but I won't even try and > speculate, if they are true UWP apps I could definitely see accessibility > challenges ahead given the somewhat poor track record of UWP apps regarding > accessibility. For those who don't know what UWP apps are, UWP stands for > Universal Windows Platform and these are apps you get from the Microsoft > Store and nowhere else and they are different from traditional desktop > programs. There is, for example, an Audible app from the Microsoft Store > which allows you to play your audible books on a PC, you can choose to > stream the books or download them (no Audible Download Manager is required) > and all in all it's very much like using the Audible app on the iPhone > except that the Audible app for iOS is super accessible and the Windows app > is not. There are scripts from Doug Lee which help, but even using the touch > cursor in Jaws there are things like for example accessing the Settings > which I have yet to figure out how to do. I can get into Settings and read > the different tabs or categories, but activating them is a different story. > When my wife clicked on any of these categories or tabs I could then again > navigate them, but it's definitely far from being accessible. > As for iOS 13 and the fate of iTunes I think there is no point to speculate, > whenever WWDC happens they always announce stuff where they don't > necessarily give all the answers this early on, let's wait and see although > by now it is clear iTunes for Windows will stay around for now. As for > Christopher's reference to our disagreement, I still maintain my position > that Apple will not entirely want to alienate their Windows customers by > completely dropping support for the platform. I didn't listen to the keynote > yet, but there was talk that for the iPad Apple may make it much easier to > connect external USB devices such as thumb drives or external hard drives > and to access their content and speculation was whether such a feature will > come to the iPhone. I don't know if the new iPad OS offers easy and native > access to content on external devices, but if it does I think it again is > just a matter of another year or two before iOS will follow. Given dwindling > sales numbers for the iPhone Apple will be actually more concerned to be > compatible with other platforms including Windows and Android. > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Davy > Cuppens > Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 7:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes? > > You can simply backup your phone in icloud like I've been doing now for 5 > years. > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > From: Chris Chaffin > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 10:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes? > > > Not only will I miss the backup feature, but I will also miss the ability to > > create and sync your own ring tones. > Maybe they will make a way to do this through windows. > > Chris. > > >> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had >> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also >> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store >> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will >> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but >> it makes no monehy for Apple. >> >>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco <[email protected]> wrote: >>> From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes. They have gradually >>> been >>> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music, >>> podcasts, etc. iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and >>> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI >>> folks >>> just aren't using it. I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only >>> thing i >>> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having >>> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Larry Lumpkin >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM >>> Subject: apple killing ITunes? >>> >>> >>> My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to >>> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows >>> program. Anyone heard anything? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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