Yes, changing emails is a big job.
I like Outlook.com better since I prefer the more traditional folder structure 
over the labels in Gmail and their All Mail box or whatever they call it. I 
know this is probably better now, but I also find syncing of contacts and all 
that is also just more of a matter where you can say "it just works". Overall I 
always thought the Exchange Active Sync protocol; used by Outlook.com is better 
than IMAP. Again, I don't want to start a big discussion, but that is just my 
opinion and there was a time when IMAP did not automatically sync contacts and 
calendars and you had to set that up separately, don't think that is necessary 
any more, though.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

Hi,
This probably strays from the topic of the list so if you wish to write 
privately feel free to do so. I was just curious what you like better about 
outlook.com versus gmail as I've toyed with migrating to it fully but hadn't as 
of yet. for changing email address for everything is akin to moving house and 
can be quite the project (smile).
Take good care.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 1:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

Fair enough, this is one reason why I have recommended Outlook.com (formerly
Hotmail) or Gmail accounts for a long time rather than going with your 
provider's email account. I personally prefer Outlook.com over Gmail, but that'
simply personal preference, I guess iCloud and Yahoo would also fall into that 
category of third-party, permanent accounts but as you said, Mark, Yahoo had 
that big hack and I have noticed over the years that if somebody's email got 
hacked it often was a Yahoo account. The huge advantage of these providers is 
that you get your account once and it's yours for the rest of your life 
regardless of who is your internet service provider.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

Sieghard,

When one has a third-party email address set as the Apple ID, then notices and 
such are sent to that email address.  Now, if that particular email account is 
hacked, unstable, or is accessible via POP3, only, one may want to change it.  
This was definitely the case when all of those @yahoo.com email addresses got 
hacked a few years back. In other instances, a person may have used the email 
address associated with a company with which he is no longer doing business; 
say switching wireless providers.  In those instances, instead of using yet 
another third-party email address, one may choose to use an Apple-owned domain. 
 Yes, one can setup aliases but that can be confusing for some.

It's just a matter of choice.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

What is the advantage of creating an iCloud email if you already have an Apple 
Id?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

HI Mark,
While I greatly appreciate this, if I have to go through all that, just to 
create an email account, forget it LOL!  Smile! What is a rescue  email 
address? Apple already has my current email address, if that is what you mean.  
When I was trying to create the new account, I had to enter my Apple id, as 
well as my password, one might think that should be enough though, but I guess 
not.  I wonder why I wasn't asked for all this information during the set up 
process though.  I did do some searching online, and I did see from an Apple 
web site that some people have been getting the same message I get when trying 
to create a new account, and according to the Apple site, this has been going 
on since 2012.  Matter of fact, one suggestion I got was to turn off and back 
on the date and time feature in settings, and power off and back on the phone, 
so I did that, but no go either!  Another suggestion was to sign out of iCloud 
and sign back in, power off the phone, and power back on, and go back to the 
mail, and my new iCloud email would be there.  So, if I was to sign out of 
iCloud, then I would have to sign back in, enter my Apple id, enter my 
password, enter my security code, turn several phone features back on, that I 
already had on! 
LOL!  I'm just wondering if all this is even worth it!
Thank you so much though, but if I have to do all this, oh, it's not going to 
happen!  I will just stick with Outlook.com or my Gmail!  Smile!

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

Hello Janet,

You know, in order to create a new iCloud email address, you must enter a 
rescue email address.  Once done, in order to proceed, you must open the 
verification email that was sent to your rescue email address and activate the 
embedded link.

Also, I believe you must verify that you are a real person by solveing either a 
graphic or audio catcha.

I created 3 new Apple IDs last week and I think that is how I did it.

Last week seems so long ago.  (smile).

Now if you are simply wanting to add an alias to an already existing account, 
that is something else.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

I did write only the part before the @ sign.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 5:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

Yes! When you create a new icloud you write only the part before @, if not, you 
will get an error.

Lyne

> Le 25 juin 2019 à 18:06, janet gross <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I tried to create an email iCloud account, and I entered my new email 
> name, and tapped the next button.  I then get a message saying problem 
> turning on mail try again, so I tap the ok button to try again.  I 
> then get a page with a message saying verify email, as well as a done 
> button, so I see my new email name I just created, I tap the done 
> button, but again, I get the same error message saying problem turning on 
> mail.
> The steps I used to create the email account is as follows; settings, 
> my name, iCloud, tapped mail.
> I'm using  a Xr phone, 12.3.1.
> Anyone have any suggestions?
> Thank you all in advance.
>
> Janet
> Peace Be With You.
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