Hello all,

A couple of responses here. If we were not supposed to report such issues to 
Apple via Feedback, why do they provide categories to do so? I agree that 
reporting to the developer is just as important which I did do on the list but, 
I don't see the harm in also reporting it to Apple.

I agree with the sentiment that developers have had access to this beta for 
quite some time now and I am both surprised and annoyed to see this happen. 
It's not just developers of blindness apps either, last pass which is a widely 
used main stream app also suffers from the same problem. Shame on these 
developers. That is after all the point of issuing these developer betas early 
in the first place.

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> On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Davy Cuppens <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> haha thats the most ridiculous explanation ever heard let’s pretend I am a 
> developer but I have no testing devices, poor developer then.
> Davy
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> Same happened with MBraille.  The developer said he didn’t have a device he 
> could put the beta on.  So, his devices must be only production devices … now 
> that the release versions are out there I hope all these developers will get 
> to work.
>  
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> I am surprised they didn’t test this, after all, Apple gives developers 
> access to upcoming versions many weeks in advance just so they can start to 
> test their apps with said version and to implement any changes or fixes.
> The same applies to Flicktype, apparently the developer said he was waiting 
> for iOS 13 to come out so he had a Stabil platform for testing, but to me 
> that is a pretty pure excuse, any developer had access to iOS 13 for over 3 
> months now.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> That’s why, it can be prudent, to wait a while before updating. Especially, 
> if you are dependent on an app.
>  
> Dave.
>  
>  
> From: Julian
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> Hi Chris,
>  
> As it happens, shortly after I sent a reply to your message, I saw the 
> following on the Nearby Explorer list. They are aware of the problem and are 
> working on a fix. See below for the actual message that was sent out on the 
> Nearby Explorer list:
>  
> Today Apple released its newest operating system, iOS 13.1. In testing, APH 
> discovered these new updates will cause issues with the paid version of 
> Nearby Explorer. We are working on a fix, but at this time one is not 
> imminent.
> If you wish to continue using the paid version of Nearby Explorer, we 
> recommend you wait to upgrade to iOS 13.1 at this time. If you do choose to 
> download the upgrade, you may still use the free version of Nearby Explorer, 
> Nearby Explorer Online, which is not affected by the updates.
> We will keep you updated as we continue to work for a solution, and apologize 
> for any inconvenience this will create.
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
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> 
> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:24 PM, jsab...@cinci.rr.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Julian. Reporting something like this to Apple Feedback is not effective. 
> I’m actually looking for a developer contact at APH who produces the app. 
> I’ve found that generally just reporting an issue as Feedback in the App 
> Store is never effective.
>  
> Thanks Much,
>  
> Chris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I've been having the same problems with Nearby Explorer as well as several 
> other apps ever since the iOS 13.1 beta cycle started. I have been reporting 
> it to Apple over and over again via the Feedback app with every update iOS 
> 13.1 up through today and still not fixed.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
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> 
> On Sep 24, 2019, at 11:37 AM, jsab...@cinci.rr.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all. I just upgraded my iPhone to IOS 13.1 and can no longer use Nearby 
> Explorer. The app just crashes. I uninstalled and re-installed the app twice 
> and redownloaded the onboard maps. Is there a person at APH that handles 
> support for this app who I can contact? Still using my old iPhone 6S.
>  
> Thanks Much,
>  
> Chris
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