I don’t recall there being that much after iOS 12. iOS 12 was the slow down on the features and fix bugs release. It was one of the more solid releases out of the gate as I recall. 11 on the other hand, not so much.
Regarding that bug with the phone calls and voiceover going silent. I understand that the easiest work around is to plug in a lightning cable. It doesn’t even have to have earbuds on it. Just one of those little lightning cables with something on the other end like an adapter like you get are used to get with iPhones. That’s not great. But it beats a showstopping loss of speech. I think the whole notion of having to release software because you have to release hardware is in sane. I know they all do it of course. But why not just well, put off the release of the hardware for a week or two? We’ve seen Apple put off iPhone releases before. Why not this time. They could have released the phone a week or two later and had it with iOS 13.1 rather than 13. All the bugs would not have been fixed, but apparently a lot of them were fixed and 13.1 which should have been 13. Rushing gets you nowhere fast. On the other hand, whether we like it or not, we who use voiceover are a very very small set of users. And when they go to fix bugs, they’re going to fix those which affect more people and are serious, like the battery drain thing for instance. They’re going to do that before they fix our stuff. It sucks. But it’s life when you’re a vanishingly small percentage of users. And since this bug with voiceover disappearing is random and doesn’t affect everybody using voiceover, maybe they actually haven’t been able to pin down the cause. That doesn’t make them incompetent. Some people seem to think if things aren’t perfect, it’s because the company is incompetent. I think those of you who think that way should go and try to do it yourself and then you’ll find out. Not so easy. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote: > > With all of this complaining about the many bugs in iOS 13, does > anyone recall the number of fixes after iOS 12 or iOS 11? It seems > like there were new software releases weekly for several months to > iron out all of the bugs and issues. > > Wayne > >> On 9/27/19, Andy Baracco <[email protected]> wrote: >> They had to release IOS 13 when they did because they were also releasing >> new phones, and they had to have something to put on them. I don't think >> you can blame Apple for everything. Some of the fault lies with the app >> developers who had adequate time to update their software and they just >> didn't do it for whatever reason. >> >> Andy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Larry Lumpkin" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 1:37 PM >> Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.1 is out >> >> >> I can't imagine what their testing department is doing. I think it's >> horrible. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan >> >> Lemly >> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 2:30 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.1 is out >> >> Cristobal, >> >> I'd have to agree. iOS 13.0 was released 9/19/19, iOS 13.1 was released >> 9/24/19, and now iOS 13.1.1 was released 9/27/19. I'm glad Apple is working >> >> quickly to correct issues but I'd prefer they get the major issues resolved >> >> before initial release. I'll bide my time a bit longer before upgrading from >> >> iOS 12.4.1. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Cristobal Muñoz >> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 12:52 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.1 is out >> >> Man. This has been an especially sloppy iOS rollout. >> I think I�m going to cool my jets and see what others say about any of those >> >> VO bugs being fixed before I update from 12.4.X. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Gordon >> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 10:47 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: IOS 13.1.1 is out >> >> I'm not sure if this does much for us, but you can go get it now. 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