Richard, thanks for the info. Just one more question. Were you writing in 
contracted or uncontracted braille? I ask this because if I put my BrailleEdge 
in 8-dot modes for both output and input, and write in ASCII braille, I'm less 
likely to have cursor-routing problems. I use 8-dot mode to edit completed 
documents letter by letter. I also sometimes have problem using the BrailleEdge 
for entering text when paying bills or filling out other documents that I 
didn't experience in earlier iPhone versions. There are definitely some bugs 
when using braille devices.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Oct 24, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  I just did a test with the Braille Edge and my work iPhone 8 plus running 
> iOS 13.1.3.
> I wrote a long note in Voice Dream Writer, and in Email.
> There was no lag to speak of.
> I could use the routing buttons on the display to put me on a word or 
> character where I needed to make a correction.
> When I then used the rotor commands to move by character or word, the cursor 
> moved exactly where I wanted it.
> Now, if you are doing this with VoiceOver speech on, you will here VoiceOver 
> reading way too much.
> Turn off the speech, and your editing experience might improve.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Duane Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello iPhone friends,
>>> 
>>> You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays 
>>> yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update.  I have since 
>>> discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when 
>>> editing a document is to make sure when you are in the document that the 
>>> rotor is set properly to words or characters.  Unfortunately, you have to 
>>> check this every time you edit a document using your braille display.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Johnna Simmons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using 
>>> the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status
>>> 
>>> Johnna Simmons
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues 
>>> since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down 
>>> the space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the 
>>> status bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left.  
>>> Now, nothing happens when I press that key combination.  Since I'm still 
>>> figuring out the update, I'm bound to have more questions.  I'm not happy 
>>> about this either.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m 
>>> really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it 
>>> comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes 
>>> erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go 
>>> into detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody 
>>> else out there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? 
>>> Tom
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