> Thanks Richard for such a quick response.  Inspired by your responses during 
> this thread, I've picked up my device and I'm using it now with the speech 
> turned off.  The only difference is that because I'm from the old school of 
> braille reading and writing, I use the older Grade 2 braille.  I just can't 
> bring myself to use UEB yet, though I can read it well enough when I see it 
> on restaurant menus and such.  My device appears to be working for now.  
> Thanks again.  
> 
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> On Oct 24, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  I use UEB contracted for both output and input.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
> On Oct 24, 2019, at 12:34 PM, Duane Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  Richard, thanks for the info. Just one more question. Were you writing in 
> contracted or uncontracted braille? I ask this because if I put my 
> BrailleEdge in 8-dot modes for both output and input, and write in ASCII 
> braille, I'm less likely to have cursor-routing problems. I use 8-dot mode to 
> edit completed documents letter by letter. I also sometimes have problem 
> using the BrailleEdge for entering text when paying bills or filling out 
> other documents that I didn't experience in earlier iPhone versions. There 
> are definitely some bugs when using braille devices.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> On Oct 24, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  I just did a test with the Braille Edge and my work iPhone 8 plus running 
> iOS 13.1.3.
> I wrote a long note in Voice Dream Writer, and in Email.
> There was no lag to speak of.
> I could use the routing buttons on the display to put me on a word or 
> character where I needed to make a correction.
> When I then used the rotor commands to move by character or word, the cursor 
> moved exactly where I wanted it.
> Now, if you are doing this with VoiceOver speech on, you will here VoiceOver 
> reading way too much.
> Turn off the speech, and your editing experience might improve.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
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> Wagner
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Duane Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello iPhone friends,
> 
> You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays 
> yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update.  I have since 
> discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when 
> editing a document is to make sure when you are in the document that the 
> rotor is set properly to words or characters.  Unfortunately, you have to 
> check this every time you edit a document using your braille display.
> 
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Johnna Simmons <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using 
> the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status
> 
> Johnna Simmons
> 
> On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues 
> since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the 
> space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status 
> bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left.  Now, nothing 
> happens when I press that key combination.  Since I'm still figuring out the 
> update, I'm bound to have more questions.  I'm not happy about this either.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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> On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi,
> I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m 
> really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it 
> comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes 
> erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into 
> detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out 
> there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? 
> Tom
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