In my opinion the Logitech K780 is the best fit here, it's pretty compact, has 
a numeric pad and it can pair with up to 3 devices.
The two drawbacks are its weight and the fact that you have to install Logitech 
Options to use it effectively with a laptop and it's a pretty inaccessible 
install.
The keyboard is somewhat heavy since it is weighted so you can stand an iPad 
upright in the groove which runs along the back of the keyboard and for that 
the keyboard has to be heavy enough so it wouldn't tip over. 
The good thing is that once Logitech Options is installed and the checkbox is 
checked which makes function keys in a Windows environment behave the 
traditional way instead of being media controls and such, you can more or less 
forget about it.
If you have a sighted person around who knows how to click a mouse the 
installation takes a couple of minutes.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Donald 
Raikes
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard

Hi all,
I am going to jump in here as well.  I am looking for a bluetooth keyboard that 
is small enough to be really portable as I am going to be doing some 
travelling, but I want to be able to pair it with both my laptop and iPad.  I 
would like something with the numpad so I can use JAWS with it as well as 
VoiceOver on my iPad/iPhone.

Thanks,
Don

On 2/12/20, Curtis Delzer <cur...@calweb.com> wrote:
> they made a USB version of that same keyboard.
>
> Curtis Delzer
> HS
> K 6 V F O
> Rialto, CA
>
> cur...@calweb.com
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> On 1/25/2020 12:19 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Gawd!  I remember those huge heavy IBM keyboards fondly, though mine 
>> expired a while ago now.  Couldn't find a 5-pin DIN adapter to use it 
>> by.
>>
>> robH, has to dash.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Lemly" <wale...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:27 PM
>> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard
>>
>>
>> Sieghard,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm interested in the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless mechanical 
>> gaming keyboard and Amazon is selling it currently for USD $69.99 
>> which seems a good price. I'll confess that I'm a big fan of 
>> old-school keyboards which have distinctive mechanical click feedback 
>> when pressing the keys and I'm still using an old IBM PC AT keyboard 
>> that I snagged from the trash where I used to work. This keyboard is 
>> a tank and was obviously over-spec'ed but I offer this up so you'll 
>> know the type of keyboard I'm used to using.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know you commented on the switches of this Logitech not being as 
>> nice as the other expensive keyboard you mentioned but I'm curious as 
>> to your opinion of its mechanical click feedback. I welcome any 
>> additional comments you could share about it before I order one.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 1:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard
>>
>>
>>
>> If you want a big full-size keyboard for both computer and iPhone I 
>> highly recommend the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless mechanical 
>> gaming keyboard.
>>
>> It has no backlighting, it uses a USB dongle for connectivity to the 
>> PC which has a 1 millisecond latency and you can pair it to your 
>> phone via Bluetooth which is also super responsive. Switching is done 
>> via a slider switch and it’s virtually instant.
>>
>> I use this keyboard as my main office keyboard, it is big and heavy 
>> and not something you would want to travel with and my only complaint 
>> is that it uses these Japanese switches called Roma-G, I wish it used 
>> Cherry MX Blue switches which I have on my wired keyboards from the 
>> company “Das Keyboard”, I have the model called Professional 4 and 
>> they are amazing, but also expensive.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Michael Feir
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard
>>
>>
>>
>> Seeing as I've spent a small fortune in search of a satisfactory 
>> keyboard, I thought I ought to pipe up here. I have a smaller 
>> keyboard from Microsoft called the Microsoft Universal Mobile keyboard.
>> It's compact and fairly rugged with a plastic rubber coated lid which 
>> doubles as a stand. You need to type in a code when pairing but once 
>> that's done, there's realy no lag. I don't know if it's still 
>> available for sale so you might have to chase that one with Ebay or 
>> something.
>>
>>
>>
>> The keyboard I'm typing on now is cheeper because it's a 60% 
>> mechanical keyboard from Keymove. They've made quite a splash in 
>> mechanical keyboard circles recently. I got mine for $50 Canadian on 
>> Amazon. You can choose the switch type you want. I like red linear 
>> switches. Other types have extra audible clicks and add more feel to 
>> typing. It only has 61 keys and you don't get multimedia controls. 
>> You do get an actual physical on/off switch on the bottom. The key 
>> for slash and question mark is tucked in the corner formed by the 
>> bottom and right arrows which takes time to get used to.
>> There's no way that I've discovered to easly turn off the rgb 
>> lighting. You don't have to enter a number code when you pair it. The 
>> advantages are that it uses Bluetooth4 and reports the status of your 
>> battery to the battery widget in the Today view of your iOS device. 
>> Nice to be able to check the battery level. There's absolutely zero 
>> lag to contend with and the board doesn't feel cramped. It is 
>> somewhat noisy to type on so I only use it at home.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've just backed a Keychron K6 mechanical keyboard on Kickstarter. It 
>> has physical switches to change between wired, Bluetooth and off as 
>> well as one to switch between devices. It uses Bluetooth 3 but given 
>> the stellar reviews of their prior keyboards, I don't expect much 
>> lag. I went with red optical switches which should help deal with any 
>> lag if I'm wrong. This keyboard will also give me multimedia 
>> functions despite being a 65% keyboard. I'll also have home and end 
>> keys.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another keyboard I've tried was from Anker. It's quiet and compact. 
>> It also has multimedia keys. Doesn't report its battery level and 
>> unfortunately suffers from a smigion of lag. Just enough to be quite 
>> annoying at times. Otherwise, it's a really nice design for a 
>> travelling keyboard.
>>
>>
>>
>> Earlier, I backed a keyboard from Hexgears called the X1. Again, 
>> wonderful build quality and a pleasure to type on but absolutely 
>> horrid Bluetooth connectivity. I use it on my computer now but that 
>> one has to pretty much go in the loses column.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's very hard to get something which checks all the boxes. I have 
>> fairly high hopes for the Keychron K6 but as you can see, I've been 
>> wrong before. I'll have to wait quite a while before I think of 
>> taking another crack at that illusive perfect Bluetooth keyboard. It 
>> seems to be my holy grail. I suppose, if it injures my fingers to 
>> type on one, that could well change to being my Moby Dick. I can tell 
>> you that it certainly won't be my fountain of youth. My wife Sara and 
>> my parents have often exclaimed "Another keyboard!" in a manner which 
>> may well qualify for genuine horror. Perhaps, one of you will find 
>> that perfect keyboard and the quest can come to a glorious end. 
>> Meanwhile, best of luck to all who set out to find the perfect typing 
>> tool that surely must exist.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:17 AM Simon A Fogarty 
>> <si...@blinky-net.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have both the k380 from Logitech and the apple magic keyboard,
>>
>> If you want simple and easy get the apple magic bt keyboard, Charging 
>> is done through the same lightening cable that can do your phone or 
>> iPad / ipod etc.
>>
>>   It's small light and has the same keyboard layout to that of the 
>> mac books
>>
>> But a lot more cost for the board when buying.
>>
>> The Logitech is great  lightweight and able to pair with multiple 
>> devices / os's Feels nice to type On and simple to switch between 
>> different devices.
>>
>> And a hell of a lot cheaper to buy.
>>
>> Hpe this helps.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Robin
>> Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2020 5:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard
>>
>> Yeah, I'm gonna Stay Tuned to "This Thread" as I'm  interested  in 
>> possibly addin' a  BlueTooth KeyBoard (QUERTY KeyBoard) to  use with 
>> My iPhone. I'm more Interested in a  FullSize KeyBoard (Durable) At
>> 06:52 PM 1/22/2020, you wrote:
>>> Hey all, coming out here to get recommendations for good Bluetooth 
>>> keyboards for my iPhone. I had one in the past it was logitech but 
>>> it’s not charging for some reason anymore. I was just seeing what 
>>> different models people liked what brands? Pros and cons as well.
>>> Thanks so much and advance.
>>>
>>> Kellie and Loki
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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