Good article. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!
> On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Mike and others, > This article may help: > > https://www.imyfone.com/ios-data-recovery/is-it-better-to-backup-to-icloud-or-computer/ > > > > > Richard > "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike B. > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > Hi Alan, > > Would you or someone please explain the difference between backing up through > my iPhone to iCloud, and backing up through iTunes? I've read mixed opinions > on this and since I backup both my wife's phone and mine both ways I would > like to know which backup to use when we get our new SE 2020 iPhones. Thanks > much. > > Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. > *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee > it cleans the toilet. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Lemly > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM > Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > Gera, > > I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when > upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing > response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only > ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted > iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps > from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a > backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. > > Alan Lemly > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Gerardo Corripio > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone > transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I > wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred > everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without > having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the > essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? > > Gera > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > > > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> > > escribi : > > > > ?Richard and others, > > > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > > > Once you have vo switched on, > > And your sim card in, > > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk > > to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated > > behind the seens. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > > Richard Turner > > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > > scratch - all help appreciated > > > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push > > too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great > > if the sim removal tool is not in the box. > > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start > > VoiceOver. > > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > > problems, they will be inherited. > > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my > > computer. > > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > > it. > > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> ?Eleanor, > >> > >> > >> > >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 > >> and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've > >> never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your > >> questions. > >> > >> > >> > >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be > >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see > >> below for other steps you need to do before this. > >> > >> > >> > >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing > >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over > >> the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my > >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted > >> iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. > >> Since your Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup > >> before setting up your new SE. To do so: > >> > >> > >> > >> 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, > >> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. > >> > >> 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. > >> > >> 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and > >> double tap. > >> > >> 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in > >> the list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button > >> and double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few > >> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest > >> backup when it's done. > >> > >> > >> > >> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted > >> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you > >> can have too many backups. > >> > >> > >> > >> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones > >> came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid > >> plan recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with > >> your iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM release > >> hole will be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. > >> You will need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper > >> clip to have something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order > >> to release its tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a > >> cork bulletin board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and > >> apply any needed pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend > >> doing the SIM removal over a tray with raised edges to provide something > >> to catch the SIM to be removed should it decide to leap out. This is > >> really all the practical advice I can give since I've never replaced a SIM > >> myself. My understanding is that they only go in one way and I believe one > >> of their corners may be notched to provide for this one way only insertion > >> but I expect others will be able to offer much more detailed advice. > >> > >> > >> > >> Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember > >> exactly what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe > >> it offers you the choice of setting it up as a new device or from > >> restoring a backup. I always restore from a backup. Also, I'm not sure > >> when the best time is for you to transfer your SIM from your iPhone 8 to > >> your new SE. My cautionary side tells me to do this after the new phone is > >> set up so you'll have a device that works until you're ready to make the > >> new one a workable cell phone. I would think all your apps and settings > >> should download from the cloud just fine and the new SE would work like a > >> WiFi only device until you transfer the SIM to it but others more > >> experienced than I will have to comment on this. > > >> > >> > >> > >> I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my apologies to you, > >> the list, and the Turtles but I just have to close by saying Eleanor, gee > >> I think you're swell. I'm a fan of 60's music. > >> > >> > >> > >> Alan Lemly > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:20 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > >> scratch - all help appreciated > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> > >> > >> After any advice/help from people on this list with this situation. I?ve > >> ordered a new IPhone SE, and have just had confirmation of its despatch. > >> So have some questions re setting it up which I?m hoping people might be > >> able to assist with. > >> > >> > >> > >> Firstly, I know this sounds somewhat daft, but if anyone could e-mail me > >> some idiot-proof instructions on how to set it up from scratch, including > >> on how to get Voiceover started from the word go I?d be really grateful > >> please?. I?m far more nervous about doing it than normal, probably because > >> I know all the shops are closed, and sighted friends who would normally be > >> able to assist me can?t do so at the moment due to the lockdown. So any > >> step-by-step guide much appreciated. > >> > >> > >> > >> Secondly, is it better to set the phone up over the air?, or is it better > >> to set it up through my Mac? I ask this because my Mac is currently away > >> being fixed/serviced. So I just wondered whether it would make any > >> difference which way I did it?, and if so whether I should wait for my Mac > >> to return before attempting set-up? > >> > >> > >> > >> Finally, can anyone send me some step-by-step idiots instructions on how > >> to swap my SIM card over from my currrent IPhone 8 to the new SE?? I?ve > >> never done this before, and again, in normal times I?d happily get sighted > >> help with this, but obviously I can?t do that right now. So any help > >> appreciated. > >> > >> > >> > >> My apologies for all the questions, but I really don?t want to make a mess > >> of this/muck it up completely/ruin the new phone/etc. So many thanks in > >> advance for any help/advice that anyone can give me. > >> > >> > >> > >> Eleanor > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > >> list. > >> > >> > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> > >> > >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > >> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]. 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