I got a reply from Voice Dream Support and he is looking into it. If I hear more, I’ll pass it on.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Nicola Sanders Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels Hi all, Thanks for your thoughts, experiences and suggestions. Richard, I may indeed get in touch with Apple Accessibility, but think I'll wait to hear back from Winston first. I also thought of using Be My Eyes on one phone to examine the screen of the other! Alan, in my case I have iCloud sync turned on. I too well remember the horrendous problems that Mary had with her library. But since my library is quite small and I make sure I back up anything important, I decided to go for the "feel the fear and do it anyway" approach and stick with iCloud sync in my case. My problemis nowhere near as serious as Mary's, as I can access all my content and haven't lost anything. Famous last words! I have noticed that a folder that I added about a year ago hasn't been duplicated, which makes me think that the problem may have happened some time ago. You may have spotted that I'm rather reluctant to reset all settings, as I don't fancy all that work, but I may not be able to avoid it forever. I'll keep you posted. Nicky Sent from my iPhone On 29 Apr 2020, at 20:22, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: It happened to me as duplicate file names and I had cloud sync turned off. I wish I knew what setting that was reset when I reset all settings that fixed the problem. But the fact that resetting all settings fixed it still makes me think its an iOS VoiceOver issue, even though Voice Dream Reader is the only app that behaved this way. Richard Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today. Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm curious whether those experiencing the Voice Dream duplicate folder label problem have iCloud Sync turned on in their Voice Dream settings. I've never turned this on since I only use one mobile device and I recall a problem Mary experienced losing her Voice Dream library when she turned on iCloud Sync when it was first introduced. I'm getting ready to set up a new iPhone and want to get my Voice Dream content transferred but I'm less than convinced that iCloud Sync is the best way to do this. I have sent an email to Voice Dream Support asking about this but I don't think I'm going to get a reply before my iPhone arrives tomorrow. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicola Sanders Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels Hi, thanks to both, interesting that you've had similar problems. Richard, I don't have access to physical sighted assistance at the moment because of the lockdown, but I think my problem may be slightly different: The duplicate folder names are not adjacent to each other, but spread throughout the very long list at more or less regular intervals in a sequence. I can move through the list using a three-finger swipe, and if i do a three-finger single tap, VoiceOver will say something like "items 95 to 99 of 322", reflecting the extent to which I've swiped through the list. This leads me to think that the folder names are actually visible in my case, as opposed to mere figments of VoiceOver's imagination: You're definitely right to counsel caution, and I'll contact Winston and wait for the response before doing anything rash. I'll report back to the list, if you're interested. Best, Nicky Sent from my iPhone On 29 Apr 2020, at 03:59, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: I don’t know, but since visually there is no problem, but VoiceOver double speaks, then to me that is a VoiceOver issue. It came up out of nowhere for me on two different phones. Frankly, I’m chalking it up to iOS 13.4.1 but I really have no idea. Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anthony Borg Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels Hi richard I also noticed that problem as well. I don’t know how who created it didn’t notice it as well. Regards Anthony From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 29 April 2020 01:40 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels Before you do any drastic in Voice Dream Reader, you may have a variation on an issue I have had twice now. Suddenly, Voice Over was saying the same file name twice, when visually there was only one. If I deleted one, both were gone. Somewhat accidentally, I discovered that reseting all settings resolved the issue. Now, this is a royal pain, because most of the settings you have customized are back to defaults, like keyboard, Siri, wall paper, rotor, and on and on. Since this was clearly a VoiceOver issue, since my sighted wife confirmed there really were only one copy of each file; mucking around in Voice Dream Reader probably isn't going to solve it. I would just proceed with caution. Richard Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today. Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb9ca042576a24c419bff08d7ec7c362c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637237890534742740&sdata=AH%2BPDZ5idLcHvxC99RRKnG8FH5n%2BH0n6WvmS%2FMmWZl0%3D&reserved=0> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>> wrote: Hi all, I meant to post this yesterday, but life got in the way. I have a strange problem with Voice Dream Reader: as per the subject line, I have discovered that I have multiple instances of the same folder name in my list of folders. I do not have duplicates of the actual files in the folders, and the “all items” list shows the right number of items in my library. I have around 15 folders, but in my folder list there are more than 200 items – at least, there were until I started to clean them up. If I delete one of the duplicate folder labels, all the instances of that folder name are removed and the files in that folder are “moved” to the “no folder” list. I realize that these are not actual physical folders, but they are more like the labels used in Gmail, I assume. Having all these duplicate folder names is very inconvenient, as I discovered to my cost when I wanted to reorder my folders alphabetically: newly created folders are placed at the bottom of the list, and it is really tricky to move them all the way up from position 200 to, let’s say, position 10 in the list. I think I should be able to straighten things out by making sure my “no folder” list is empty, deleting a folder, recreating it with the same name, selecting the contents of the “no folder” list and moving it into the folder I just created. However, I am really wondering whether anyone else has had a similar problem, and what I can do in future to prevent it from happening. A bit of background: I have iCloud Drive on my PC and I usually add items to my Voice Dream library by placing them in the Loader subfolder of the Reader folder in iCloud Drive. I also add items to my library using share sheets from other apps. I happen to have two iPhones, both using VDR and syncing with iCloud, and my gut feeling is that this could be part of the problem. I always try to avoid having Voice Dream open on both phones at the same time, but I cannot guarantee that this has never occurred inadvertently. I can open the Library folder in iCloud Drive on the PC, but I would hesitate to try to edit it without knowing exactly what I was doing, as I would really prefer not to lose files if I can help it. My library is not very large – only about 320 items, many of which are fairly small files – so I don’t think that’s the problem. I will contact Voice Dream Support about this, but I thought I’d ask on here as well, in case anyone has had a similar experience. I believe that these folder labels must have been proliferating for a while without me even realizing it, which I know sounds rather strange! It’s easy enough for me to check how many folders I have by doing a three-finger single tap, but I just never thought to do it. It certainly explains why I could only ever find new folders by starting from the bottom of the list. All the best and sorry for the long post, Nicky -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. 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