O' just one more! I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all the time. They have been around for almost 15 years. They work for some dogs and not for others as much. -Steve
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up. Jenn Jenn and Kumi > On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog > Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020 > > Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static > electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and > panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. > Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, and > improve its response to the > > Part 1 > Calming Your Dog > Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully > underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear > thunder. > > Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will > know, and this will only make matters worse. > During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow > the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, > reassuring tone. > • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your > dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy. > • Soft singing can help calm some dogs. > > Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, > this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its > owner. > Here are a few options: > • Under a table or bed > • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or > windowless bathroom > > Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog > huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added > pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, > consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or > Anxiety Wrap. The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make > sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the > acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid > injuring your dog. > • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points > associated with stress relief. > • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog > overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The > air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always > supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety. > • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and > help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product > directions for safety information. > > Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing > machine) can help drown out the thunder. > Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. > • Covering the dog's ears can also help. > > Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from windows, > or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an additional > source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some scared dogs > may try to run away or harm visitors. > > Play games. > Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could play > fetch or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that will > turn your dog's attention away from the storm. > > Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to > treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some > essential oils that work for humans may cause discomfort or injury in > animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required as well. > • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are very > concentrated and can be harmful to your skin as well as your dog's. They can > also damage furniture. > • Lavender is one popular option that seems to help dogs, when used in the > correct dose. > • Another option is petting your dog with a dryer sheet- it reduces static. > > Talk to your vet about medication. If these methods are ineffective, ask your > vet about anti-anxiety medications. > Your dog can take some medications such as amitriptyline for the duration of > the storm season. There are also quick-acting medications such as > acepromazine ("Ace") or diazepam that can be taken for individual storms. > > • To be effective, quick-acting medications must be administered before your > dog exhibits any behavioral changes. > • Never give a dog medication without consulting a veterinarian first. > > Part 2 > Preventing Your Dog's Fear > Desensitize your dog. > To teach your dog that storms are nothing to fear, play a recording of > a thunderstorm on very low volume for several hours, once a week. Each > week, if the dog shows no signs of agitation, turn up the volume slightly. It > can take a long time for your dog to adapt, but eventually your dog may learn > not to fear thunder. > • If this agitates your dog too much, start with 5–10 minute daily sessions > instead. > > Expert Trick: While you play thunder sounds for your dog, give them a > bone to chew on or toy to play with. Furthermore, you can give your > dog treats and give commands to keep their focus on you and make the > experience a happy occasion. This will help make thunderstorms seem like a > normal experience and keep them from getting scared during a real one. > > Encourage calm behavior. > Give your dog a treat or a toy when it shows calm behavior during a storm, or > when it obeys a command despite its fear. Train it to respond to a "relax," > "calm," or "settle" command. > • Training your dog with an indoor leash is also highly effective. For > example, treat your house like an indoor obstacle course and lead your dog > around asking him/her to perform certain commands. If at any time this > appears to be causing more stress, stop, and work on calming your dog. > > Anticipate your dog's fear. To curb stress and anxiety, engage with > your dog before the storm hits. Prepare indoor activities, and make sure your > dog's safe place is set up. > > • Do not punish a dog exhibiting fear or anxiety during a storm. This is not > bad behavior – your dog has a genuine phobia. > • Be patient and kind. It may take time for your dog to improve. > • If you know a thunderstorm is coming, let your dog outside to go to > the bathroom. Once the storm starts the dog is unlikely to go outside to > relieve itself. > > > From: https://www.wikihow.com/Calm-a-Dog-During-Thunderstorms > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must > pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of > ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have > regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted > extending it.)" - Edward Herbert > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Shirley Baker > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 6:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Lightning alert > > No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs > and they say they help. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money? >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Baker >> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Lightning alert >> >> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a >> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. >> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when >>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Jennie Facer >>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert >>> >>> Simon, >>> >>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a >>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it >>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!! >>> >>> Jenn >>> >>> Jenn and Kumi >>> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I don't >>>> see the point? >>>> >>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about >>>> it striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it >>>> will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will >>>> be working. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Jennie Facer >>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Lightning alert >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me >>>> to when lightning has struck. 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