The one dog I had that really hated lightning was from The Seeing Eye. The field rep came out and was going to get me a thunder shirt, but the dog gave up working before I would have received the shirt. Florida is really no place with a fear of storms. About a half hour before we'd hear the thunder, the dog would cower in his kennel and we knew that something was going to be happening soon.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 3:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms. If we were outside somewhere and it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and refuse to go any further. He would turn around and go back home as fast as he could, but not go any further the other direction. ________________________________________ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca] Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015. My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black lab/golden retriever mix. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms. Which school did yours come from? Maybe they do a better job than some. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or gunshots. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks. Caitlyn > On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney <n4o...@gmail.com> wrote: > > O' just one more! I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all > the time. They have been around for almost 15 years. They work for some > dogs and not for others as much. > -Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Jennie Facer > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: > Lightning alert > > I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will > go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a > flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up. > > Jenn > > Jenn and Kumi > >> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >> wrote: >> >> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog >> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020 >> >> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static >> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and >> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. >> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, >> and improve its response to the >> >> Part 1 >> Calming Your Dog >> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully >> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear >> thunder. >> >> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will >> know, and this will only make matters worse. >> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow >> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, >> reassuring tone. >> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your >> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy. >> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs. >> >> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, >> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its >> owner. >> Here are a few options: >> • Under a table or bed >> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or >> windowless bathroom >> >> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog >> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added >> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, >> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or >> Anxiety Wrap. The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make >> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the >> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid >> injuring your dog. >> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points >> associated with stress relief. >> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog >> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The >> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always >> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety. >> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and >> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product >> directions for safety information. >> >> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing >> machine) can help drown out the thunder. >> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. >> • Covering the dog's ears can also help. >> >> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from >> windows, or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an >> additional source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some >> scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors. >> >> Play games. >> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could >> play fetch or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that >> will turn your dog's attention away from the storm. >> >> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to >> treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some >> essential oils that work for humans may cause discomfort or injury in >> animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required as well. >> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are >> very concentrated and can be harmful to your skin as well as your dog's. >> They can also damage furniture. >> • Lavender is one popular option that seems to help dogs, when used in the >> correct dose. >> • Another option is petting your dog with a dryer sheet- it reduces static. >> >> Talk to your vet about medication. If these methods are ineffective, ask >> your vet about anti-anxiety medications. >> Your dog can take some medications such as amitriptyline for the duration of >> the storm season. There are also quick-acting medications such as >> acepromazine ("Ace") or diazepam that can be taken for individual storms. >> >> • To be effective, quick-acting medications must be administered before your >> dog exhibits any behavioral changes. >> • Never give a dog medication without consulting a veterinarian first. >> >> Part 2 >> Preventing Your Dog's Fear >> Desensitize your dog. >> To teach your dog that storms are nothing to fear, play a recording >> of a thunderstorm on very low volume for several hours, once a week. >> Each week, if the dog shows no signs of agitation, turn up the volume >> slightly. It can take a long time for your dog to adapt, but eventually your >> dog may learn not to fear thunder. >> • If this agitates your dog too much, start with 5–10 minute daily sessions >> instead. >> >> Expert Trick: While you play thunder sounds for your dog, give them a >> bone to chew on or toy to play with. Furthermore, you can give your >> dog treats and give commands to keep their focus on you and make the >> experience a happy occasion. This will help make thunderstorms seem like a >> normal experience and keep them from getting scared during a real one. >> >> Encourage calm behavior. >> Give your dog a treat or a toy when it shows calm behavior during a storm, >> or when it obeys a command despite its fear. Train it to respond to a >> "relax," >> "calm," or "settle" command. >> • Training your dog with an indoor leash is also highly effective. >> For example, treat your house like an indoor obstacle course and lead your >> dog around asking him/her to perform certain commands. If at any time this >> appears to be causing more stress, stop, and work on calming your dog. >> >> Anticipate your dog's fear. To curb stress and anxiety, engage with >> your dog before the storm hits. Prepare indoor activities, and make sure >> your dog's safe place is set up. >> >> • Do not punish a dog exhibiting fear or anxiety during a storm. This is not >> bad behavior – your dog has a genuine phobia. >> • Be patient and kind. It may take time for your dog to improve. >> • If you know a thunderstorm is coming, let your dog outside to go to >> the bathroom. Once the storm starts the dog is unlikely to go outside to >> relieve itself. >> >> >> From: >> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww >> .wikihow.com%2FCalm-a-Dog-During-Thunderstorms&data=02%7C01%7C%7C >> bbdc5dce2c8141f1a58408d81610c483%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7 >> C1%7C0%7C637283608554222393&sdata=J7FESrhDVyEIMuTd7NENODzW30CBPTE >> yX81NnHn8m9E%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> >> Richard >> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must >> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of >> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have >> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted >> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Shirley Baker >> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 6:36 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Lightning alert >> >> No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs >> and they say they help. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Baker >>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert >>> >>> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a >>> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm >>> wrong. I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for >>> dogs. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when >>>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jennie Facer >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert >>>> >>>> Simon, >>>> >>>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a >>>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and >>>> it is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!! >>>> >>>> Jenn >>>> >>>> Jenn and Kumi >>>> >>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I >>>>> don't see the point? >>>>> >>>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about >>>>> it striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it >>>>> will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone >>>>> will be working. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On >>>>> Behalf Of Jennie Facer >>>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Lightning alert >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me >>>>> to when lightning has struck. 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