It's not that bad. How would you know how bad it is since you haven't updated? 
Some people are just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update My 
> VZW XS MAX, as it's going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the iOS  version it 
> was when I  Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith iOS13 
> because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that  MobileDevice is ON 
> AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice To Update or Not
> At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> You can turn automatic update off but I don't see what the big deal is with 
>> not updating.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>> > thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> > have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> > that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>> > the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> > page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> > Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> > my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> > It really isn't that bad.
>> >
>> >> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor <judypry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me 
>> >> to
>> >> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the 
>> >> terms
>> >> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
>> >> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks
>> >>
>> >> Judy
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> >>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
>> >>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>> >>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>> >>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
>> >>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
>> >>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. I 
>> >>>> have
>> >>>> all
>> >>>> of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
>> >>>> exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
>> >>>> show
>> >>>> zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
>> >>>>> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>> >>>>> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
>> >>>>> site
>> >>>>> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
>> >>>>> up
>> >>>>> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
>> >>>>> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
>> >>>>> being
>> >>>>> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
>> >>>>> option to Canada.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>> >>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
>> >>>>>> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Book Details,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Rate and Review,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mark as Finished,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Exchange this title,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Send This Boo,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Add to favorites,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cancel.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> HTH,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Richard
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> >>>>>> pass
>> >>>>>> himself,† and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> >>>>>> ancient
>> >>>>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> >>>>>> granting
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>> >>>>>> Herbert
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Mary,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> When I'm in my Library tab on the iOS Audible app and double tap the
>> >>>>>>> Menu button to the right of one of my listed books, I get a list of
>> >>>>>>> vertically stacked options one of which is Exchange this title.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Alan Lemly
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:21 PM
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> To: VIPhone via
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Returning or exchanging audible books using the iOS audible
>> >>>>>>> app
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Someone in a WhatsApp group I am part of says that he is able to
>> >>>>>>> exchange audible books from within the iOS audible app. If you go to
>> >>>>>>> your library, get the list of books that you have downloaded, and
>> >>>>>>> double
>> >>>>>>> tap on the menu next to one of those books,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> you get a bunch of choices, one of which is supposed to be return or
>> >>>>>>> exchange this book. I have tried this, not because I wanted to
>> >>>>>>> exchange
>> >>>>>>> something, but just because I wanted to see if I have a choice. And I
>> >>>>>>> don�t. The books I tried it on or a couple of
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> recently purchased books. So they definitely met the criteria for
>> >>>>>>> possible exchange. But I�m not seeing this choice. Is anyone else
>> >>>>>>> seeing
>> >>>>>>> it?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>
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