Hi Mark, NO, unfortunately it doesn't. As others have mentioned enabling that setting made a lot of apps unusable. There was no change in the focus behavior either. The only way I could get VO to stop its weird screen recognition hiccup was to restart the device completely. So restarting doesn't resolve anything either. Apple responded that they were aware of the HTLM element issue and that they were working on it, but man. It's all over the place and once you encounter it, that's it. All you can do is force quit the app. Maybe if you're lucky, you can dismiss that screen, but that's usually not the case. Also, for me at least, VO can't maintain focus on the dictate button. It jumps and flickers and the haptic feedback is as if the phone's doing the jitterbug. I have to use the two finger double tap to invoke dictation which is not as convenient as simply using one hand as more often than not, you've got to use two hands with the two finger tap thing. One to hold the device and the other to tap. All in all, talk about beyond annoying.
Cristóbal -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 5:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Caution against following advice to reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility Hello Cristobal, I have not yet updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14 and do not plan on doing so anytime soon. However, I have updated my iPad to iPad OS 14 and am not experiencing any of the focus issues, reported on the list. Question: Does disabling Scene Description mode resolve the VoiceOver focus problem? I ask because doing so on my iPad made VoiceOver perform as expected. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Caution against following advice to reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility That… sucks. The VO jumpiness and getting stuck is something I too have reported to Apple Accessibility. I believe others are experiencing it too. It’s actually a major pain and feels like a major bug. I get it when trying to share something via the share sheet, When trying to fill in log in credentials with 1Password and randomly here and there throughout iOS. It also seems to be present in SeeingAI. Pretty much breaking that functionality. In my case, I reported it via email and the accessibility team asked me to provide a screen recording of the issue as well as a system log during the time I did the screen recording which I did. There are some other bugs I’m dealing with in regards to text editing and VO being over chatty now (saying toolbar on the toolbar now), but this jumpiness and getting stuck on buttons/edit fields etc. really is a pain. Good luck and hopefully you can find some sort of resolution instead of having to wait for an open Apple store. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:27 PM To: 'VIPhone Email List' <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Caution against following advice to reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility Hello List, I want to caution others from avoiding the problem I'm experiencing after calling Apple Accessibility to report an issue I was having with iOS 14. I was checking out the setting under my name/Apple ID and when I opened Media and purchases, I noticed that when swiping through the various controls to check out the screen that focus kept jumping back to the Apple ID control in the upper left of the screen. This was some major jumping and occurred on several controls on that screen. Trying to be a good citizen, I called Apple Accessibility to report the issue. I spoke with someone named Willard who was nice enough but who suggested I reset all my settings to factory defaults. I argued with him that I had a lot of custom settings and wasn't comfortable doing that but he said it was the first suggestion they gave after getting contacted about problems following an iOS upgrade. Against my better judgment, I reset all my settings. Here are some of the things that were reset that will prevent me from ever doing that again: 1. All my Apple cash credit cards were removed. 2. My Touch ID was reset. 3. The accessibility setting for Voiceover with the home button was reset. 4. All my custom keyboards were removed. 5. My keyboard settings were changed from Touch typing to standard typing. 6. My default ringtone was reset. 7. The background color of my home screen was reset from a sea green to something that appears to be sort of a red orange color. 8. Other custom settings I had made were reset that I can't recall. I was able to puzzle out and reset most of the settings but could never figure out how to reset the background color of my home screen. I looked under display and screen settings and under Wallpaper but found nothing. I then decided to restore my encrypted backup I made with iTunes before upgrading to iOS 14. That took over an hour and now all my phone does is that the Apple logo appears on a black screen as it used to when doing a hard reset but it appears for a few seconds and then disappears and then reappears again. The phone which is an SE 2020 will not restart and is no longer recognized when I plug it to the lightning cable and open iTunes. So the moral of this story is if you have an iOS 14 issue to report to Apple Accessibility, don't let them convince you to reset your settings. I've never had a problem with restoration of an iTunes encrypted backup before but I guess my phone is out of commission until I get to an Apple Store. I did upgrade iTunes to its latest version before backing up before upgrading to iOS 14. 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