Yeah, that toolbar announcement bugs the crap out of me just like the thing saying "conversations" at the top of the messages app.
Kim On 9/20/20, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yup. I wrote Apple accessibility as well. Don’t' know if it's a bug or well > intentioned effort to provide more description/information, but it's one of > those cases where more isn't better. > I asked if it isn't in fact a bug, that if they could at the very least > include this behavior only when hints are turned on to give us more > experienced iOS users more options on what's spoken. > Same goes for the mail app. Now, when you're focused on a folder, VO says no > unread mail. I mean., you intuitively understand if VO doesn’t' read X > unread messages, there are no unread emails in that folder or inbox. Just > more superfluous chatter we have to sift through every single time. Again, > probably mor appropriate for when hints are turned on. > > > Cristóbal > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Toolbar? > > I very much agree here, always thought how nice it would be to be able to > turn off how Voiceover says "Dock" whenever I touch one of the apps there. > After all, it doesn't say "Home screen 1" if I touch an app on my first home > screen and I think Apple really needs to tie such redundant announcements to > Voiceover Hints or to entirely allow them to be turned on or off just how > you can really customize what information Jaws speaks. Any half way > competent iPhone user doesn't need to hear "Dock" or "Toolbar" or "tab bar" > spoken. Yes, you get used to it, but it's still annoying and hopefully a > number of people will write to Apple Accessibility requesting this. This is > definitely one I will point out especially now that they are expanding such > extra announcements. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:58 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Toolbar? > > It would be nice to be able to turn these announcements off. I mean really, > toolbar? But it’s been there all through the beta cycle, so I’m sure it’s > deliberate. More unnecessary verbosity. Please let us turn all this junk > off. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >> wrote: >> >> That would be considered a feature by Apple, just like the Dock saying >> the Dock when you touch the apps at the bottom of your screen. >> Apparently, we are supposed to know we are in the Toolbar, or Dock, as if >> one couldn't figure that out because it is the last line of the screen. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass >> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient >> hatreds among peoples. 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