Nope. Just disabled that feature and still getting the toolbar thing. Cristóbal
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shirley Baker Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 6:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Toolbar? I am so glad to get rid of the toolbar too. I wondered what it was for. So glad we have so many knowledgable people on this list who know a lot more than me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Michael Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Take a look at the verbosity settings for Voiceover. I set the "container > descriptions" to "do nothing" and I am not getting a lot of the extra speech. > > Michael > > > > > >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 19:23, Kimber Gardner <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yeah, that toolbar announcement bugs the crap out of me just like the >> thing saying "conversations" at the top of the messages app. >> >> Kim >> >>> On 9/20/20, Cristóbal Muñoz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yup. I wrote Apple accessibility as well. Don’t' know if it's a bug >>> or well intentioned effort to provide more description/information, >>> but it's one of those cases where more isn't better. >>> I asked if it isn't in fact a bug, that if they could at the very >>> least include this behavior only when hints are turned on to give us >>> more experienced iOS users more options on what's spoken. >>> Same goes for the mail app. Now, when you're focused on a folder, VO >>> says no unread mail. I mean., you intuitively understand if VO >>> doesn’t' read X unread messages, there are no unread emails in that >>> folder or inbox. Just more superfluous chatter we have to sift >>> through every single time. Again, probably mor appropriate for when hints >>> are turned on. >>> >>> >>> Cristóbal >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:27 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Toolbar? >>> >>> I very much agree here, always thought how nice it would be to be >>> able to turn off how Voiceover says "Dock" whenever I touch one of the apps >>> there. >>> After all, it doesn't say "Home screen 1" if I touch an app on my >>> first home screen and I think Apple really needs to tie such >>> redundant announcements to Voiceover Hints or to entirely allow them >>> to be turned on or off just how you can really customize what >>> information Jaws speaks. Any half way competent iPhone user doesn't need to >>> hear "Dock" or "Toolbar" or "tab bar" >>> spoken. Yes, you get used to it, but it's still annoying and >>> hopefully a number of people will write to Apple Accessibility >>> requesting this. This is definitely one I will point out especially >>> now that they are expanding such extra announcements. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:58 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Toolbar? >>> >>> It would be nice to be able to turn these announcements off. I mean >>> really, toolbar? But it’s been there all through the beta cycle, so >>> I’m sure it’s deliberate. More unnecessary verbosity. Please let us >>> turn all this junk off. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Richard Turner >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> That would be considered a feature by Apple, just like the Dock >>>> saying the Dock when you touch the apps at the bottom of your screen. >>>> Apparently, we are supposed to know we are in the Toolbar, or Dock, >>>> as if one couldn't figure that out because it is the last line of the >>>> screen. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must >>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of >>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have >>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted >>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>> Of Gerardo Corripio >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 10:39 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Toolbar? >>>> >>>> I’m curious if when we touch, for example within the Mail app, near >>>> the dock where you have the ToolBar to delete, More Options, and >>>> others, is it an iOS14 bug that it says ToolBar, or is it someting that >>>> should be there? >>>> Of course it doesn’t bother me, but I’m curious. >>>> >>>> Gera >>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>> iPhone list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>> itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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