It has been my experience with the new features trying to help us with images that we now have to work on finding the images that make no sense and try to weed them out. There should be some kind of process to look at all image descriptions in theapps and make the text descriptions correct. Unfortunately this technology is new and is going to have weird consequences. Just be patient sorry about the chatter LOL!
******* MQ ******* *******270-776-9871 ******* ________________________________ From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 1:48:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky It's extra chatter that I prefer not to hear especially since the info is of absolutely no practical use. Kim On 11/19/20, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken > > But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for > an issue to talk about? > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of kitty > hevener > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and > tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested > earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, > or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to > pinpoint any patterns yet. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Robin Frost > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > HI, > > I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and > I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of > navigation or touch. > > Robin > > > On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. > Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I > encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really > makes a difference. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain > <chalt...@gmail.com><mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described > when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a > work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the > issue. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Robin Frost > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > Hi Deb and all, > > I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have > been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling > works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them > aware of this people can also email them at: > > accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> > > as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. > > I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned > on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on > an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it > doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. > > I do hope it gets fixed soon. > > Take good care. > > Robin > > > On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition > mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was > trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition > gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, > didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, > being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will > allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others > who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more > complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain > <chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings > -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to > describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has > told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. > I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak > screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running > 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried > twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods > both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson > <fireka...@gmail.com<mailto:fireka...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. > > Viola > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Reg > Sullivan > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? > “night sky” > > Anyone out there know what it represents? > > Regards…..Reg > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > Hello Listers, > > What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? > > Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along > with flashlight and battery usage? > > Noe > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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