Wwhen i make a call, i try always to shift bo focus to the end key which seems 
to keep vo quiet for the most part.  

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On Oct 27, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Dave Bahr <[email protected]> wrote:

> yep I can confirm it, I've brought this up before. drives me nuts when I'm in 
> a call walking around and the f ing voiceover talks the time every 3 seconds 
> and I can't hit the lock button or move the cursor away from the timer.
> 
> Dave C. Bahr
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> On 10/27/2012 5:05 PM, Len Burns wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> I have enough troubleshooting experience to have done the below as you
>> describe.  And, VO still ends up on the time.  I am not being highly
>> critical of Apple nor the phone, just stating an observation that I have
>> duplicated many times as have several others I know who are equally
>> careful.  This has been true both in 5.1.1 and 6.0 with my 4S.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> -Len
>> 
>> On 10/27/2012 3:52 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>>> Yes, but the factor may be the person brushing the phone so lightly that 
>>> they don't notice it after double-tapping the call button. I have done this 
>>> and it will place the focus where the body part brushes the phone. All it 
>>> takes is the merest contact. The touch-screen is not pressure sensitive, it 
>>> is contact sensitive. Now, if you ensure that VO is not highlighting the 
>>> call timer, close the phone app, have your headset connected, use the 
>>> button on the headset chord to activate Siri, and voice-dial a number / 
>>> contact, you will have eliminated all possibilities of touching the screen 
>>> inadvertently. If VO starts reading the call timer then, you have 
>>> definitely found a bug. VO remains on the field it was last on when the 
>>> call screen pops up. Using the above method, I have never been able to 
>>> cause the troubling behaviour.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 28/10/2012, at 11:35, Len Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> While I know the below happens, I have seen the same thing occur with an
>>>> earpiece on, phone lying on the table with nothing near it.  So, I
>>>> believe there is something going on here that is not always a human factor.
>>>> 
>>>> -Len
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/27/2012 1:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>>> Hi, also for what it's worth, I don't feel this is a bug like I've seen
>>>>> others say it is. If there is any sort of bug it's that if Voice Over is
>>>>> automatically placing focus on the timer, then yes, that needs to be
>>>>> addressed, however I would venture a guess, coming from a training point
>>>>> of view, that more often than not, it's the person who accidentally
>>>>> touches the timer. A good way it's been done, and it's happened to me is
>>>>> when I was putting the phone next to my ear, my lobe touched the screen
>>>>> in just the right place. I guess I have really big ears. Sure enough,
>>>>> the timer started telling me all the length of the call. A simple touch
>>>>> to somewhere else solved that problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>>>> My wife says I ask too many questions. I asked her what she meant?
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>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/26/2012 4:54 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>>>>>> VO reads whatever is in the area you've highlighted with a touch. If
>>>>>> it starts reading the call timer and did not do so before, this is
>>>>>> because you touched, no matter how lightly, the call timer. Take the
>>>>>> iPhone away from your ear to activate the touch-screen and move VO to
>>>>>> another field either by touching a different area on the screen, or
>>>>>> using a right or left flick. If you have headphones on, the
>>>>>> touch-screen always remains active.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To silence VO, you can either do a three-finger double-tap to mute
>>>>>> speech, or you can use a triple-tap of the home button to unload VO.
>>>>>> Just remember to use the same gesture when you are finished with your
>>>>>> call to get VO talking again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 27/10/2012, at 6:40, Donald Raikes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had the experience yesterday of making a couple of calls some with
>>>>>>> the wired headset and some without.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In both cases, VO started talking in the middle ofthe call.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It would say screen dimmed and phone locked, and on one of hte calls I
>>>>>>> made with the headset, it kept reading the time every few seconds.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Obviously this makes it very hard to hear the person on the other end
>>>>>>> of the call.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any tips on how to get VO to stop talking while I am on a call would
>>>>>>> be appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
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