Well, without beta testing you have [email protected] and for bugs you 
can submit reports to apple.com/feedback. Beta testing is the best way, but 
you’ve got options for not being interested.
Daniel

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:48 PM, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Possibly the issue youre having is due to the fact you have an iPhone 12s,
>  
> Which isnt’ an iPhone available on the world market.
>  
> Could you mean a 12 or a 12 pro?
>  
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 7:49 am
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: beta testing
>  
> Thank you Daniel.
> I’m not interested in beta testing, though I’d absolutely love it if apple 
> fixed whatever issue is causing the Iphone 12’s not to charge wirelessly and 
> also if they could make it so you could pick where you wanted voiceover to go 
> when using Bluetooth over the speaker or over the phone speaker.
> I talked with apple accessibility on these issues today, they routed me to 
> Apple technical support who had never heard of voiceover nor did they 
> understand the charging issue, nor did they understand Bluetooth.
> The guy even said to me “just plug it in” when I was trying to describe the 
> charging issue, if I wanted to do that and I liked that option I wouldn’t 
> have even brought it up.
> Very frustrating to say the least especially as the charging issue wasn’t 
> disclosed when I bought my phone, it is apparently very common with Iphone 
> 12’s and I’m told to “just plug it in”.
> Really?
>  
>  
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> From: Daniel MacDonald
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:06 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: beta testing
>  
> IOS 15 is around the corner. I’ll start beta testing when the developer beta 
> 1 is available. Not much is known about the OS, and developers and beta 
> testers alike sign a non-discloser agreement and since this list is not for 
> betas, I can’t say anything until iOS 15 is officially reliesed to the 
> public. Their is a beta list however, and if some join it, we’ll no 
> everything. It is a violation of the list guidelines to be subscribed if 
> you’re not actively beta testing. 
> Regards,
> Daniel
>  
>  
> 
> On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:41 PM, kliph miller Sr <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I run a beta list, and we test all betas with all aspects.  IOS, MacOS, 
> iPads, iPhones, with and without bluetooth keyboards.  Even submitted bug 
> reports, and share those bug report numbers so it can be referenced and be 
> connected to the same issue.
>  
> My groups
> User of just apple products, like to ask and answer without other topics?  
> That’s how it goes down in “only Apple talk and support. Subscribe here
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>  just apple!
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> Have a braille display?  Come teach and learn with others
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> On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:23 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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> I would urge beta testers to do a lot of the testing of features  not just 
> from bluetooth keyboards but through touching and tapping and swiping on the 
> screen. I think things have been overlooked in the past in regard to swiping 
> vs things that work real well for those using bluetooth keyboards or braile 
> devices with their phones.
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> Deidre
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