that sounds like a good plan to me too. I was just wondering, if you use facial 
ID and you have sunglasses on, would it work? Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> 
> The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if they're like 
> me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just extra taps 
> for someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding in a vehicle 
> driving over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems more intuitive.
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
>> It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have to double 
>> tap each digit or just touch and lift.
>> But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a passcode.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Star 
>> Gazer
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>> 
>>        Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then without 
>> voiceover?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>> 
>> I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, 
>> would not want to do that.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>> 
>>            How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? I've 
>> never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>> 
>> Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>> 
>> You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode 
>> even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face 
>> Id works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you 
>> set it up.
>> As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine 
>> a clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at 
>> the bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock 
>> is on the left side?
>> You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of 
>> the Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South 
>> (down) and West (to the left).
>> All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is 
>> to hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a 
>> bit to the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure 
>> somebody could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode 
>> which for some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the 
>> screen and you are good to go.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Face recognition
>> 
>> If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode 
>> instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your 
>> passcode when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple 
>> years ago, then I would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
>> I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face 
>> ID.
>> 
>>> On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>>> Carolyn
>>> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>> 
>>> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our
>>> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
>>> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to
>>> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy
>>> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
>>> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Face recognition
>>> 
>>> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in
>>> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted
>>> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>>> 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
>>> Bob Proctor
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