No issue if you set it up without attention mode,

I still have my own eyes and without looking at the camera attention mode is 
bloody difficult.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2021 2:34 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Face recognition

I have a prosthetic eye, how does face ID work with something like that?

On 9/22/21, Esther Levegnale <[email protected]> wrote:
> right. I could imagine it would not work with a mask. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 6:46 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> It does work for me with or without sunglasses, but not with a mask.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Esther Levegnale
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:58 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: Richard Turner <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Face recognition
>>
>> that sounds like a good plan to me too. I was just wondering, if you 
>> use facial ID and you have sunglasses on, would it work? Esther
>>
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>    On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Lisa Belville 
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Hi.
>>
>>
>>    The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if 
>> they're like me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  
>> It's just extra taps for someone and more to concentrate on if 
>> walking or riding in a vehicle driving over bumpy roads. Holding the 
>> phone up just seems more intuitive.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Lisa Belville
>>    [email protected]
>>
>>    On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>
>>
>>        It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
>>
>>
>>        It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you 
>> have to double tap each digit or just touch and lift.
>>
>>
>>        But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a 
>> passcode.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        Richard
>>
>>
>>        "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
>> touch with it." - Jane Wagner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>> Behalf Of Star Gazer
>>
>>
>>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
>>
>>
>>        To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>               Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen 
>> then without voiceover?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>> Behalf Of Carolyn
>>
>>
>>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
>>
>>
>>        To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; 
>> I, for one, would not want to do that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>        From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
>>
>>
>>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
>>
>>
>>        To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                   How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover?
>> I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>> Behalf Of Carolyn
>>
>>
>>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
>>
>>
>>        To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six 
>> digits.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>        From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>
>>
>>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
>>
>>
>>        To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter 
>> a passcode even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock 
>> your iPhone. Face Id works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can 
>> get somebody to help you set it up.
>>
>>
>>        As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not 
>> able to imagine a clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at 
>> the top, 6 O'clock is at the bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side 
>> (between 12 and
>> 6) and 9 o'clock is on the left side?
>>
>>
>>        You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional 
>> Globe/representation of the Earth with the cardinal directions North 
>> (up) East (to the right), South (down) and West (to the left).
>>
>>
>>        All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time 
>> process, is to hold the phone straight in front of your face, then 
>> when prompted look a bit to the right, then down, then left and back 
>> up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody could help you with it and once 
>> it's done turn off attention mode which for some blind people is 
>> better if they can't really focus on the screen and you are good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>
>>
>>        Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
>>
>>
>>        To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>        Subject: Re: Face recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my 
>> passcode instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face 
>> ID and your passcode when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have 
>> known this a couple years ago, then I would have gotten a newer iPhone then 
>> the 8.
>>
>>
>>        I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when 
>> setting up face ID.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>            A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost 
>> at arm's length.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>            -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>            From: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
>> On Behalf Of
>>
>>
>>            Carolyn
>>
>>
>>            Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
>>
>>
>>            To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>            Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>            Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west 
>> side of our
>>
>>
>>            apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot 
>> from your face.
>>
>>
>>            The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head 
>> slightly to
>>
>>
>>            the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth.
>> The guy
>>
>>
>>            at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to 
>> do it myself.
>>
>>
>>            If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>            -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>            From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>
>>
>>            Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
>>
>>
>>            Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
>>
>>
>>            To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>            Subject: Face recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>            I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  
>> Before I jump in
>>
>>
>>            to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need 
>> sighted
>>
>>
>>            help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>            Kay Malmquist
>>
>>
>>            [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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