right. I could imagine it would not work with a mask. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 6:46 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It does work for me with or without sunglasses, but not with a mask. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:58 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Richard Turner <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Face recognition
> 
> that sounds like a good plan to me too. I was just wondering, if you use 
> facial ID and you have sunglasses on, would it work? Esther
> 
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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> 
>    On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Lisa Belville <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>    
>    
> 
>    Hi.
>    
>    
>    The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if they're 
> like me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just extra 
> taps for someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding in a vehicle 
> driving over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems more intuitive.
>    
>    
>    
>    Lisa Belville
>    [email protected]
>    
>    On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>    
> 
>        It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
>        
> 
>        It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have to 
> double tap each digit or just touch and lift.
>        
> 
>        But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a passcode.
>        
> 
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> 
>        Richard
>        
> 
>        "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." - Jane Wagner
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>        My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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>        -----Original Message-----
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> 
>        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
>        
> 
>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
>        
> 
>        To: [email protected]
>        
> 
>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>               Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
> without voiceover?
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> 
>        
>        
> 
>        -----Original Message-----
>        
> 
>        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
>        
> 
>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
>        
> 
>        To: [email protected]
>        
> 
>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>        I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for 
> one, would not want to do that.
>        
> 
>        
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> 
>        -----Original Message-----
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>        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Star Gazer
>        
> 
>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
>        
> 
>        To: [email protected]
>        
> 
>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>                   How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
> I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>        -----Original Message-----
>        
> 
>        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
>        
> 
>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
>        
> 
>        To: [email protected]
>        
> 
>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>        Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>        -----Original Message-----
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>        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>        
> 
>        Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
>        
> 
>        To: [email protected]
>        
> 
>        Subject: RE: Face recognition
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>        You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a 
> passcode even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your 
> iPhone. Face Id works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody 
> to help you set it up.
>        
> 
>        As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to 
> imagine a clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock 
> is at the bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 
> o'clock is on the left side?
>        
> 
>        You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation 
> of the Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), 
> South (down) and West (to the left).
>        
> 
>        All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time 
> process, is to hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when 
> prompted look a bit to the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I 
> said, I'm sure somebody could help you with it and once it's done turn off 
> attention mode which for some blind people is better if they can't really 
> focus on the screen and you are good to go.
>        
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>        
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>        -----Original Message-----
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> 
>        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
>        
> 
>        Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
>        
> 
>        To: [email protected]
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> 
>        Subject: Re: Face recognition
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>        If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode 
> instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your 
> passcode when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple 
> years ago, then I would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
>        
> 
>        I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up 
> face ID.
>        
> 
>        
>        
> 
>        On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>        
> 
>            A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's 
> length.
>            
> 
>            
>            
> 
>            
>            
> 
>            -----Original Message-----
>            
> 
>            From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of
>            
> 
>            Carolyn
>            
> 
>            Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
>            
> 
>            To: [email protected]
>            
> 
>            Subject: RE: Face recognition
>            
> 
>            
>            
> 
>            Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our
>            
> 
>            apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your 
> face.
>            
> 
>            The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly 
> to
>            
> 
>            the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The 
> guy
>            
> 
>            at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it 
> myself.
>            
> 
>            If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>            
> 
>            
>            
> 
>            -----Original Message-----
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> 
>            From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>            
> 
>            Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
>            
> 
>            Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
>            
> 
>            To: [email protected]
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> 
>            Subject: Face recognition
>            
> 
>            
>            
> 
>            I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump 
> in
>            
> 
>            to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted
>            
> 
>            help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>            
> 
>            
>            
> 
>            Kay Malmquist
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