Hi Richard,

The commas are probably there to slow down how quickly VoiceOver speaks what is 
being deleted. Punctuation groups are a nice feature that was added a couple of 
years ago. I suggest making a new group. You base a group on one of the 
existing groups and can then make modifications as needed. You can also change 
how VoiceOver pronounces certain things. for example, I have it pronounce 
braces as "Left brace" and "Right brace" instead of "Left curly bracket" and 
"Right curly bracket." Since most text-to-speech engines pause for commas, you 
could have it not speak commas to fix the deletion issue.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I just noticed something new under Verbosity punctuation.
> Something called Punctuation groups.  I was looking to see if they had added 
> a more option instead of just All, Some, or None and found this new setting.
> I'm not sure what it would do for you, but yes, all punctuation means all.
> But, there is also a bug that I hope others will report to Apple.
> While editing text, each time you delete a letter, VoiceOver says "comma d" 
> or "comma s" it says the word "comma" when no comma was written.  Very 
> annoying.  Perhaps it is also reading spaces as commas?  I have no use for 
> hearing punctuation as I write with braille since I have the display to feel; 
> but if using the Orbit Writer, that could be useful.
> 
> Contacting Apple would be my next step.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:09 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients <[email protected]>
> Subject: VoiceOver verbosity settings - punctuation
> 
> How can I get VoiceOver to announce a comma, full stop, exclamation or 
> question mark while typing with my Orbit Writer Braille keyboard? If I set 
> verbosity punctuation to "some", none of them are voiced. If I set verbosity 
> to "all", VoiceOver announces commas all over the place when navigating e.g. 
> when focus in my list of emails falls on one from Apple TV, VoiceOver says  
> "unread comma Apple TV comma"
> Harry
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