I uninstalled the Microsoft Store app this morning and downloaded the desktop 
version from Apple's website and it works 100 times better for me, I can use F6 
but Tab also works and actually tab reads things like Next, Play, Previous and 
so on and I can press Control + F to go to the search box and then find the my 
iPhone button easily by pressing enter. All you have to do is Google "Download 
iTunes" and the first link should take you there.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: October 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works better 
than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with 
iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.

Kay Malmquist
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but is 
useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either 
(Waltr2).
I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not be 
good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler because it's 
really not all that difficult in iTunes.
OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had 
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few ringtones 
made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from the 
Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what happens; 
I'll be back shortly.

OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes 
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the area 
where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from there 
because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not finding 
that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I will now 
have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and install the 
desktop application.

Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and even 
renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's almost all 
using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One example which 
used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to the device 
area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you to the search 
field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to the iPhone 
button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the touch cursor 
and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate it. From there 
pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I arrowed down 
until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4 times to get to 
the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow keys to see what was 
there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the ringtones, copied them to 
the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all at once, and then I went back 
to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list and pressing Control + V did work 
to paste them and at that point they immediately started syncing to my phone 
which I had of course connected earlier.
Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if you 
trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are asked to 
enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to be your 
passcode.
Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like to 
start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift + F10 
on one of the tones, I realized pressing F6 4 or 5 times took me to the title 
field where I could now type in what I wanted and pressing enter saved it, a 
few seconds later I would hear the tritone from iTunes which indicates an 
operation has finished. I repeated this with the other 4 tones and they are now 
on my phone.

This should have taken me a few minutes, but while I did explore a bit, I spend 
probably at least 10 or 15 minutes figuring out how I would get where, I could 
do it much faster now, but it really should be a lot easier than this.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 30, 2021 1:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Well, there is a very tedious, but good app that is a paid app called WALTR Pro 
that for Windows users requires that iTunes be present on the computer, but you 
don’t have to deal with iTunes.

The issue is, the program is not easily dealt with.  Because someone else asked 
for it, I did about an 8 minute demo that I put on my web site of the basics of 
transferring something to the phone.  I use it mostly for transferring zipped 
audio or just mp3 files to Voice Dream Reader.  But I have used it for 
ringtones and it works quickly and easily once you know the steps.

I created a Demos page off my main page.
If you are interested it is:
http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 12:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

I would love to know how to sync ring tones from my computer to my phone 
without using iTunes.

Kay Malmquist
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

If you didn't do the wireless setup from your old phone to the new one to begin 
with, you cannot direct transfer the ringtones from the old phone to the new.
You can copy them from your computer directly onto the new phone without using 
the sync service of iTunes. In fact, tones do not sync through iTunes any more.
Ii If you want to do that, I I think the steps will be easy to find, but if you 
cannot find them, let me know.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 30, 2021, at 6:21 AM, goshawk on horseback 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

if you set up your new phone from your old one, they should all just transfer 
across, like everything else.

Simon


----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Long<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:31 AM
Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so how?  I 
see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is appreciated.

Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE
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