True, except that if the sighted person knows how to turn voice over off with 
the side button three clicks, or familiar with the ability of siri to turn 
voice over on or off, the screen curtain becomes useless. Even with the screen 
curtain on, the minute you turn voice over off, the screen immediately lights 
up.

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> On Jan 1, 2022, at 3:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> My husband, who is pretty good with tech stuff, says that if a sighted 
> person tried to steel my phone, it would be pitched into the garbage, because 
> of VoiceOver and, when I have it engaged, Screen Curtain. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited
> 
> Cris, 
> 
> I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience 
> for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're 
> exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, 
> it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app 
> requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot 
> be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more 
> convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his 
> own. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Cris 
> Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited 
> 
> I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to 
> setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot 
> of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a 
> thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the 
> camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> 
>    On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. <mfa...@outlook.com> wrote:
>    
>    
> 
>     
> 
>    Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else?
> 
>    Thanks!
> 
>    From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
>    Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM
>    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>    Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited
> 
>     
> 
>    Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back 
> too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you 
> have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 
> inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I 
> still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to 
> practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It 
> takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It 
> will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did 
> with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone!
> 
>    Reggie Alvarado 
> 
>    
>    On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. <mfa...@outlook.com 
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>     
> 
>    Hi Group.
> 
>    I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12.
> 
>    I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped 
> Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too.
> 
>    I am unable to unlock phone with face id.
> 
>    Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated.
> 
>    Thanks!
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