On the subject of oddities, with voiceover, why won't the voice I choose for my Apple watch switch from siri say to Fred for example or Alex? I have watchOS 9. I wonder if the subject of not getting any speech on the phone happens with Alex as well sorry for flip-flopping back and forth.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mine happened with Evan Enhanced. I would have switched back to Samantha, > but someone on this or another list said it happened to their phone with > Samantha. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > CHELA Robles > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 6:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot > > You know what’s really weird is I have not experienced what you guys have > experienced and I’m running iOS 16 it may be the voice I’m using I’m using > Fred, which is not a new voice, but I figured perhaps maybe if this does > happen again, maybe plug the phone in and it will automatically start and > then it’ll vibrate or make that noise start up sound or whatever it does when > you charge the phone and then maybe VoiceOver might come on, but I don’t > know. At any rate, I’m glad you solved the issue. I just on an iPhone 8 plus > and haven't got that issue yet, what voices does this happen with? This is > for my own curiosity. older voices or newer voices? Or maybe even a > combination of both? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 19, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Cris Ali <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> A friend of mine using iPhone 8 had the same problem after updating to iOS >> 16. We solved the problem by deleting the voices and reinstalling them >> again. That took care of the voice over problem not talking. >> Cheers >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I don't really think it's that many compared to how many people (sighted >>> or blind) are using the iPhone. I don't recall exactly how many say they >>> had this issue, but I bet it wasn't more than 4 or 5. >>> I have an iPhone 11 and had no issues whatsoever with Voiceover not >>> speaking when I reboot the phone. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Karen Poulakos >>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot >>> >>> Has anyone tried using an external braille display, like the Orbit Reader >>> 20 Plus, to get the phone up and running without Voiceover? I haven't >>> turned my phone off since updating, but am almost afraid to after hearing >>> from so many who have had this problem. >>> >>> My phone is an SE 2022. I tried several voices, and went back to Samantha. >>> >>> Karen P >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Carolyn >>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:38 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot >>> >>> I could not use Rotor or keypad without Voiceover. So, if Voiceover does >>> not work, my phone is as good as a piece of garbage to me. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:58 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot >>> >>> Just FYI, if you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to your phone you can >>> enter your PIN on it and using the numbers row on a keyboard or a NumPad if >>> you have something like a Logitech K780 should be a lot easier and >>> successful than trying to tap the right numbers on the touchscreen without >>> feedback. >>> >>> Alternatively if you have handwriting added to your rotor and know how to >>> enter handwriting you can enter your PIN this way, but again it's probably >>> hit and miss without feedback. I just tried it for the first time in a long >>> time and for some reason when I turn the rotor to the right which does >>> bring up handwriting on the lock screen it defaults to lower case and I >>> have to swipe down twice with 3 fingers to get to numbers, then I can write >>> my PIN numbers on the screen and the phone unlocks. >>> >>> I will write to Apple Accessibility because I think by default if you have >>> a number field only like with the PIN entry field it would be nice if once >>> you turned the rotor to handwriting it would automatically default to >>> numbers entry. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Vicky Collins >>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:20 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot >>> >>> >>> >>> I had this same thing happen with both my 12 Mini and 13 Mini Friday night, >>> but I haven�t had the problem with either phone since. I�m using the >>> default Samantha voice, and I had no problems when upgrading to iOS 16. >>> >>> >>> >>> With the 13 Mini, I had turned the phone off to get rid of that one unread >>> message badge I often get now when I receive a text message on one of my >>> phones and delete it right after reading. Since I have text message >>> forwarding set up on both of my phones, the phone on which I don�t read the >>> text shows that badge until I either recover the message I have deleted on >>> the other phone or until I reboot that phone on which I haven�t read the >>> message. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyway, after turning that iPhone 13 Mini back on, VoiceOver did not speak >>> or make any sounds, and nothing I did from trying to talk to Siri, using >>> headphones, turning up the volume button, doing the triple click of the >>> side button or force restarting the phone would bring back the speech. I >>> finally got my 12 Mini to read the screen with Seeing AI, and after >>> pressing the side button to get it where it needed to be, it finally read >>> the slide to unlock or whatever it says, and I lucked into getting the >>> phone into the correct position with the slide I did, and then I >>> miraculously entered the passcode correctly and VoiceOver started talking >>> once again. Before getting to this point, though, I had had enough >>> unsuccessful attempts at entering that passcode to where I had to wait the >>> fifteen minutes before I got the opportunity that actually let me unlock >>> the phone and restore VoiceOver. >>> >>> >>> >>> As for my 12 Mini, while I had turned it off for the same reason as the 13 >>> Mini, meaning another text message badge I wanted to get rid of as I had >>> permanently deleted a message on the 13 Mini and thus couldn�t recover it >>> on the 12 Mini to get rid of that badge, I wasn�t nearly as fortunate with >>> recovering VoiceOver. For, even though I practiced positioning my fingers >>> on the 13 Mini so I would be ready when I could get the 12 Mini to that >>> unlock position, I somehow managed to enter the incorrect passcode every >>> time, figuring this since VoiceOver never did start talking. >>> >>> >>> >>> I let this go on for my opportunity to enter the passcode after an hour, >>> but when that attempt failed and the screen read that my 12 Mini would now >>> be disabled for three hours, I decided to try other things. I couldn�t >>> connect the phone to the computer and try to see if I could bring up the >>> accessibility settings in iTunes because I had turned off the USB >>> accessories setting that would�ve let USB accessories connect after the >>> phone had been locked for an hour. I couldn�t turn the phone off as I >>> normally do by pressing the volume up, then the volume down, and then >>> pressing the side button for a second or two, and I was afraid to try to >>> turn the phone off with holding the side button and one of the volume >>> buttons as I didn�t want to risk calling 911 by mistake, so I wasn�t able >>> to put the 12 Mini in recovery mode either. Oh, although VoiceOver didn�t >>> work, I was able to call either phone when VoiceOver wasn�t working and >>> each would ring even though there was no speech except me hearing myself >>> when I would occasionally get that swipe just right and I managed to get a >>> call connected. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thus, what I wound up doing in the end, as I certainly wasn�t going to >>> knock on a neighbor�s door late at night, was that I went into the Find My >>> app on my 13 Mini, erased the iPhone 12 Mini, and then set up the 12 Mini >>> again restoring it from the iCloud backup I had thankfully done the day >>> before. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Arnold Schmidt <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 9:17 AM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as >>> described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver >>> would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor >>> doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard >>> when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had >>> been turned off. He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code >>> before it would work. He is a good iphone user, he said that nothing he >>> tried would get it to work. I hope these are isolated incidents, I put it >>> out there for others to test. 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