It's not Speech that gets turned off, but Voiceover, so that is a whole 
different animal, as far as gestures are concerned. 

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Devin Prater
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Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

Interesting. Tell him to get screen recognition out of his rotor. Screen 
recognition, thankfully, now has different clicks, to show a user they're in 
that mode.

Devin Prater
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:17 AM Arnold Schmidt <[email protected] 
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        I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as 
described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver 
would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor 
doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard 
when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had been 
turned off.  He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code before it 
would work. He is a good iphone user, he said that nothing he tried would get 
it to work. I hope these are isolated incidents, I put it out there for others 
to test. He said that he had had no problem with IOS 16, until this incident. 
        
        Arnold Schmidt 
        
        
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