Speaking of the home button, it isn't getting used to no home button
that is a problem for me.  I'm getting used to face ID and that is
still somewhat of an issue for me.  Not having a home button, is no
big deal.  I just wish I could still have touch ID instead of face ID.

On 10/20/22, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think it is kind of like the Home Button; there are those who will grieve.
> I wonder how much longer the SE models will have a Home Button?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:34 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max
> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> And if all you have to do is transfer your e-SIM from your old iPhone to
> your new one during the setup process of your new phone it would be just as
> easy peasy.
> I understand why people who make a living reviewing products have multiple
> phones and want to transfer a SIM from one device to another a lot, but I
> never understood why somebody would want to spend all that money to buy 2 or
> 3 high-end phones and use one this day or this week and another the next. I
> would venture a guess and say that this is a pretty small minority among
> phone owners.
> I haven't really read up on this, but I understand that transferring an
> e-SIM from an old phone to a new one is a pretty easy and straight forward
> thing. I actually switched to an e-SIM on my iPhone 11 because I wanted the
> physical SIM tray to be available for when I travel to the Philippines with
> my wife. I haven't bought a new phone since then so I didn't have to
> transfer said e-SIM. Anyways, if there is an easy way to transfer an e-SIM
> between 2 or 3 devices whenever one wants to do so then the argument about
> the physical SIM becomes a mute point. From the little I did read all it may
> take is a QR code from your carrier and then to scan said QR code to
> transfer the e-SIM and before I would moon over the lack of a physical SIM I
> would certainly want to inform myself as to how easy or not it is to switch
> e-SIMs between the devices I have.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 1:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max
> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> I have had the same sim card now since my iPhone 5S. Each time I get a new
> one I just pop the card out and put it in the new one. Easy peasy.
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
> Julian
> Sent: October 19, 2022 8:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max
> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> The sad reality is, every time Apple shows "courage " look out, it means
> that somethings about to get taken away. Just like every time something is
> done in the name of "safety" it usually means some right or liberty is about
> to get taken away, that's as far as I'll go into that on this list though.
> Good luck in being able to get the phone that you want with a Sim tray. For
> my part, I'm going to hold onto my SE3 which is working quite nicely and
> suiting my needs.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd expect it to just work. I get the situation where people want to be
>> able to use multiple phones by just switching out the SIM card, but that's
>> not something I'm interested in doing. When I got my iPhone 11, the person
>> at the AT&T store basically just handed me my phone and I could walk out
>> of the store with it. I asked if there was something we needed to do, like
>> swap the SIM card, and he said no, it was all good. It was the easiest
>> it's ever been for me to get a new phone, and it was the least amount of
>> time I've ever spent in a carrier's store.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:14 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro
>> Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>
>> When I got my 13 pro max, I put in my sim card from my iPhone 8 for the
>> first time.  It was surprisingly easy.  I wonder what would happen if I
>> took the sim card from my 13 pro max and put it back into my iPhone 8.
>>
>>> On 10/19/22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I am not an expert in these things, but I think that phones in
>>> specific countries are set up to use the cell bands in use in that
>>> country, so if you buy one from outside the United States, you could have
>>> problems, in theory.
>>> I could be wrong, but if it were me, I would investigate.
>>>
>>> Well, actually if it were me which I am, I just got a simless 14 Pro.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf
>>> Of lenron brown
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 4:36 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone
>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>
>>> 13 pro max, unless you order from outside the states. This is pretty
>>> much the only way, unless you have someone buy it and send it to you.
>>> being someone that loves having the freedom to swap devices I get not
>>> wanting this 14 pro max.
>>>
>>>> On 10/19/22, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I do the same, Regina, get the store person to get my phone going.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>> Behalf Of regina alvarado
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:18 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone
>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>
>>>> It’s an interesting question. I keep getting the message on my 13
>>>> promax that I don’t have a Sim card, and I Have to say okay each time.
>>>> Is there a way to get this off my phone or am I supposed to have a
>>>> SIM card? By the way, what is a SIM card? My education is lacking.
>>>> I’m not sure I’ve ever had one. I always have my phones Put together
>>>> by a person at the store for whatever company I’ve been with, and
>>>> never have they ask me for my Sim card.
>>>> Anyway, just a little confused. Thanks for any help you can give me,
>>>> and sorry that I’m asking a stupid question.
>>>> Reggie Alvarado
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 2:29 PM, Peter Logan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my IPhone.
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 1:47 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same question.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>> Behalf Of [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone
>>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>>
>>>>> My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works
>>>>> just fine?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf
>>>>> Of M.
>>>>> Taylor
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:39 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro
>>>>> Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> And so it begins.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at
>>>>> iPhone
>>>>> 14 Pro Max.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray.
>>>>>
>>>>> While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat
>>>>> surprised to learn that, according to him, the store has been
>>>>> inundated  by customers who only want to buy iPhone 14 with a physical
>>>>> SIM tray.
>>>>> He told me that they are working on crafting an in-store response
>>>>> to the enquiries designed to discouraged customers from seeking a
>>>>> physical SIM tray.  He followed that up by saying, "I know you,
>>>>> Mark, and no response is going to keep you from getting that SIM
>>>>> tray model, if that is what you want."
>>>>> (smile)  He is a very smart man (smile).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the search begins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know away to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a
>>>>> physical SIM tray, from within the United States?
>>>>>
>>>>> Some people are saying that if you buy a model from the Apple
>>>>> online store, without designating a wireless provider, that Apple
>>>>> will ship you a model with a physical SIM tray.  However, I cannot
>>>>> locate anyone to confirm this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make no mistake, I'm not above taking a short trek up to Canada to
>>>>> pick up a model but if I can avoid it, I would prefer to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a friend who is heading to Japan in a couple of weeks and,
>>>>> of course, I could have the friend pick up a model, in Japan, but
>>>>> that makes me somewhat uncomfortable; I don't know why.  I think
>>>>> I'd rather go to Canada, in person, to grab a model.
>>>>>
>>>>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
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