I don’t know the technicalities, but based on my research, maybe the arc input on the television does the conversion where it strips the video from the TV. I just started learning on this from this thread and research.
Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: If ARC only wants audio then why does the Sonos app keeps telling me I have to plug my Apple TV into an ARC port on my TV? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 11:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results Yes, That’s why the apple Tv doesn’t work. ARC only wants audio hence audio return channel. That’s why I think the converter I recommended will work. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v<http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v<http://www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote: I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing gets through? This is a working theory. Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this? HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on your TV. I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it. avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi, I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v<http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v<http://www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Feliciano, That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a single input and it is also HDMI. I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results Gary, In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv) I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM output which can be connected to TV/ headphones/ Speakers for audio only. Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs you need. Feliciano >> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone >> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some >> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version >> which arrived last week. >> >> I was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and >> the speed of the box, I gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% >> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a >> sound only system. >> >> I intend to pick up a Sonos beam as there are some good deals this Black >> Friday and will report back on what happens. >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have >>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the >>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, >>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these >>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, >>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has >>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund >>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it >>> work. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >>> Of Matthew Bullis >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen? >>> >>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You >>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your >>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or >>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have >>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item: >>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... >>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen >>> <talk2o...@gmail.com<mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. >>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not >>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out >>> differently, please let me know. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner >>>> <richardr_tur...@comcast.net<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930 >>>> >>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just >>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly. >>>> >>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our >>>> Smart TV in our living room... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard, USA. >>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>> with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in >>>> the Universe >>>> >>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone >>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen? >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into >>>> a soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a tv and >>>> thence to a soundbar? >>>> >>>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't >>>> want a full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway. >>>> >>>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a >>>> display device.. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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