Have you run into this problem with VoiceOver off? I report any bug I find to Apple Accessibility because I know they actually read the messages.
Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com > On Jun 12, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi richard, > To be honest, I have not reported to Apple Accessibility. I don’t see it as > an accessibility problem. It’s a Siri problem having nothing at all to do > with voiceover. So I’m not sure what good it does to report this to Apple > accessibility. I have reported more general things in the past, and gotten a > response that it’s not appropriate to report this here. I can’t remember what > it was, but that’s why I never report to them unless it’s specifically can be > tied to something having to do with voiceover. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Ron Canazzi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Group, >> >> I have been using the iPhone for over 4 years now and I use Siri only in a >> limited context. While I can use the text keyboard, I am still quite slow >> at it and so I choose to use Siri for Text messages. It works quite well if >> you speak slowly--using some punctuation and have limited background noise. >> >> As far as phone calls, I have all important contacts: doctors, pharmacies, >> family members, friends in contact from which I use the standard navigation >> techniques to access and dial them. If I have to call someone or some >> business that is not in my contacts and I know the number, then I use Siri. >> >> As far as opening apps, I group the ones I use the most into folder--using >> the edit method of drag and drop and placing these folders on page one of >> the home scre3en. Again, I use standard navigation techniques to navigate >> quickly to the folders and double tap on the program name to access and >> initiate their functions. >> >> ...So am I unusual in operating this way? >> >>>> On 6/12/2023 2:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote: >>> I hope you all are reporting this to Apple Accessibility. >>> And, perhaps, asking for a session where they share your screen and can >>> monitor what is happening and then have you send in a diagnostic report >>> during that session. >>> Apple will never be able to fix things if they don't have good evidence to >>> what exactly is going on. >>> [email protected] or 877-204-3930 >>> >>> I will get the call x person in my contacts and Siri responding with What >>> do you want to know about X person, but that is the exception and pretty >>> seldom. >>> I suspect that is a connection issue with my WiFi... >>> >>> HTH, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard, USA. >>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>> it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe >>> >>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary >>> Otten >>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:11 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of >>> the iOS 16 cycle >>> >>> Perfect example. And I bet if I tried that on my old phone which I can’t >>> because it no longer has a Sim, it would probably work perfectly. I’m not >>> buying this business about the new tone and the delay being the cause. I >>> interact with Siri the same way all the time. So if it’s the problem with >>> the tone or the speaking delay not being long enough, I should have the >>> problem consistently. But there are certain things that it never ever gets >>> wrong. And the App Store is the most glaringly obvious one. It never misses >>> opening the App Store. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Paraphrasing... >>>> Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife. >>>> Siri: what do you want to know about XXX >>>> Me: I want to call my wife. >>>> Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call? >>>> Me: Yes, Call my wife. >>>> Siri: Sorry Something went wrong. >>>> I can give a myriad of other similar examples too. Siri is still hot >>>> garbage all these years later. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM >>>> To: via VIPhone <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the >>>> iOS 16 cycle >>>> >>>> Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were complaining about >>>> the new tone for Siri and about problems getting Siri to respond >>>> appropriately. I was certainly one of those people. N Now, many months >>>> later, I’m still one of those people. Certain things I can ask. Siri never >>>> screws up. Open the App Store, for instance. I don’t think it ever missed >>>> that command. But open BARD Mobile. Open the name of my credit union, and >>>> many other open commands as often as not meet with some stupidity about >>>> what it found on the web or how it doesn’t think I have such an app, even >>>> though it has opened the app many times in the past. I thought it was >>>> supposed to have some kind of on device machine learning, which would help >>>> it disambiguate things it wasn’t sure of. This must not be true, because >>>> its overall performance has maintained its low level, whereas on iOS 15, >>>> the very same Siri with the very same commands yields reasonable results >>>> almost all of the time. So, whatever Apple did in iOS 16 has not been >>>> fixed as far as I’m concerned. 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