I use Siri to make phone calls and that's about it. I never use it to open apps, because Siri can't close apps, just open them, so I don't see the point. I very rarely use Siri to send text messages since I have my Hable One keyboard for typing and phone navigation. I'd just use the screen for phone navigation if I didn't have my Hable. I know on which page of my phone certain apps are located, so again, iI don't need Siri.
On 6/12/23, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > Have you run into this problem with VoiceOver off? > I report any bug I find to Apple Accessibility because I know they actually > read the messages. > > > > > Richard, USA. > “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little > consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Jun 12, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi richard, >> To be honest, I have not reported to Apple Accessibility. I don’t see it >> as an accessibility problem. It’s a Siri problem having nothing at all to >> do with voiceover. So I’m not sure what good it does to report this to >> Apple accessibility. I have reported more general things in the past, and >> gotten a response that it’s not appropriate to report this here. I can’t >> remember what it was, but that’s why I never report to them unless it’s >> specifically can be tied to something having to do with voiceover. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Ron Canazzi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Group, >>> >>> I have been using the iPhone for over 4 years now and I use Siri only in >>> a limited context. While I can use the text keyboard, I am still quite >>> slow at it and so I choose to use Siri for Text messages. It works quite >>> well if you speak slowly--using some punctuation and have limited >>> background noise. >>> >>> As far as phone calls, I have all important contacts: doctors, >>> pharmacies, family members, friends in contact from which I use the >>> standard navigation techniques to access and dial them. If I have to call >>> someone or some business that is not in my contacts and I know the >>> number, then I use Siri. >>> >>> As far as opening apps, I group the ones I use the most into >>> folder--using the edit method of drag and drop and placing these folders >>> on page one of the home scre3en. Again, I use standard navigation >>> techniques to navigate quickly to the folders and double tap on the >>> program name to access and initiate their functions. >>> >>> ...So am I unusual in operating this way? >>> >>>>> On 6/12/2023 2:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote: >>>> I hope you all are reporting this to Apple Accessibility. >>>> And, perhaps, asking for a session where they share your screen and can >>>> monitor what is happening and then have you send in a diagnostic report >>>> during that session. >>>> Apple will never be able to fix things if they don't have good evidence >>>> to what exactly is going on. >>>> [email protected] or 877-204-3930 >>>> >>>> I will get the call x person in my contacts and Siri responding with >>>> What do you want to know about X person, but that is the exception and >>>> pretty seldom. >>>> I suspect that is a connection issue with my WiFi... >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard, USA. >>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>>> it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the >>>> Universe >>>> >>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:11 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end >>>> of the iOS 16 cycle >>>> >>>> Perfect example. And I bet if I tried that on my old phone which I can’t >>>> because it no longer has a Sim, it would probably work perfectly. I’m >>>> not buying this business about the new tone and the delay being the >>>> cause. I interact with Siri the same way all the time. So if it’s the >>>> problem with the tone or the speaking delay not being long enough, I >>>> should have the problem consistently. But there are certain things that >>>> it never ever gets wrong. And the App Store is the most glaringly >>>> obvious one. It never misses opening the App Store. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Paraphrasing... >>>>> Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife. >>>>> Siri: what do you want to know about XXX >>>>> Me: I want to call my wife. >>>>> Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call? >>>>> Me: Yes, Call my wife. >>>>> Siri: Sorry Something went wrong. >>>>> I can give a myriad of other similar examples too. Siri is still hot >>>>> garbage all these years later. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>>> Mary Otten >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM >>>>> To: via VIPhone <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of >>>>> the iOS 16 cycle >>>>> >>>>> Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were complaining >>>>> about the new tone for Siri and about problems getting Siri to respond >>>>> appropriately. I was certainly one of those people. N Now, many months >>>>> later, I’m still one of those people. Certain things I can ask. Siri >>>>> never screws up. Open the App Store, for instance. I don’t think it >>>>> ever missed that command. But open BARD Mobile. Open the name of my >>>>> credit union, and many other open commands as often as not meet with >>>>> some stupidity about what it found on the web or how it doesn’t think I >>>>> have such an app, even though it has opened the app many times in the >>>>> past. I thought it was supposed to have some kind of on device machine >>>>> learning, which would help it disambiguate things it wasn’t sure of. >>>>> This must not be true, because its overall performance has maintained >>>>> its low level, whereas on iOS 15, the very same Siri with the very same >>>>> commands yields reasonable results almost all of the time. So, whatever >>>>> Apple did in iOS 16 has not been fixed as far as I’m concerned. 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