Oh, you're welcome, but that's weird that it was randomly gone for you. Because 
I was able to set up my 4S like that, and later on, I got a 5S, and also my 
seven.
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> On Aug 3, 2023, at 4:24 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joseph.
> I never had an iPhone 7.  The ones I did have, when they were erased, the 
> shortcut was gone as well.
> Of course, that was in earlier iOS versions and I had set the shortcut up 
> myself when it was not there from Apple.
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> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 2:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: wiping an older iphone
>  
> Actually, Richard, you don't lose the shortcut. For voiceover. You only lose 
> the shortcut if a carrier sets it up. Once the phone is reset, you can call 
> the VoiceOver on by holding and pressing the home button for three times.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:50 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>  
>> If you use the Settings, General, Reset, erase all data, you will likely 
>> lose the accessibility shortcut and will either have to use a computer with 
>> the phone connected via the cable with iTunes to enable it, or get sighted 
>> help to go through the setup and enable the shortcut again.
>>  
>> 
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>>  
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>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 12:31 PM, 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Voiceover is part of the operating system so you’re not going to lose it. 
>>> Most likely when the iPhone turns on you initially won’t have voiceover, 
>>> however, you can press the home button three times and voiceover will turn 
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:23 PM, Paula Jordan <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.  I have an iphone 7 That I want to wipe, but I don’t want to lose 
>>>> voice-over.  How do I go about that?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> God bless!
>>>> Paula and the pups
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