There is nothing wrong with it use it and what it says as a tool. > On Sep 21, 2023, at 9:15 PM, realman02 via VIPhone <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The problem is that a non-human thing, Open AI, is making subjective > judgments about people and objects in pictures and there's no way to query > the AI why it came up with that judgement. Plus I want to make my won > judgements and don't want to be influenced by a machine. All I'm saying is > that we need to think carefully whether we really want Be My Eyes to be > giving us these judgments or having them reserved for human interactions. > I realize this is veering off topic so won't be replying anymore. > Happy listing! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of lenron > brown > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Be my eyes new service > > I don't see the problem. > >> On 9/21/23, realman02 via VIPhone <[email protected]> wrote: >> to you, she is, appropriately, loveable. But to Open AI? >> >> Really think about whether you want Be My Eyes to be giving value judgments >> and subjective judgments to its descriptions. >> >> >> >> John >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Kellie >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 7:53 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Be my eyes new service >> >> >> >> I guess to each their own. I find nothing wrong with the descriptions. I >> have the intellect to know that it is simply artificial intelligence and I >> can make up my own mind if it really means they’re happy or sad, etc. I am >> very happy with the fact that I’m getting detailed descriptions, and it >> makes me feel like I can see again. But I understand that everybody >> approaches us differently. >> >> Kellie and my lovable Lady J >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 PM, realman02 via VIPhone <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I am disturbe dby this description. I don’t want an AI tleling me something >> is “adorable” or “ugly” or “horrible” or any subjective description. >> >> Also. “Soulful, curious, etc” are extremely troubling. This is how I want my >> AI to handle descriptions of people, animals and things: >> >> >> >> >> >> The picture shows two dogs sitting on a floor. The floor has dark gray tiles >> and there is a beige rug where the dogs are sitting. On the left, there is a >> black Labrador with a shiny coat. It has brown eyes and is wearing a collar >> with a tag. On the right, there is a German Shepherd puppy. It has a black >> coat with tan markings on its legs and face. The puppy has bright eyes and >> floppy ears. It is also wearing a collar with a tag. They are sitting next >> to each other and seem to be in a kitchen, as there is a glimpse of a >> cabinet and an oven in the background >> >> Thanks John Riehl >> >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroupscom <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Alison May >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 6:43 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Be my eyes new service >> >> >> >> I asked if this app could also describe photos on my iPhone and followed the >> directions given. I am absolutely amazed. Below is a description of the day. >> My current guide dog met his puppy raiser and her new pup. The details >> really bring the picture alive. >> >> >> >> The picture shows two adorable dogs sitting on a floor. The floor has dark >> gray tiles and there is a beige rug where the dogs are sitting. On the left, >> there is a black Labrador with a shiny coat. It has soulful brown eyes and >> is wearing a collar with a tag. On the right, there is a German Shepherd >> puppy. It has a black coat with tan markings on its legs and face. The puppy >> has bright, curious eyes and floppy ears. It is also wearing a collar with a >> tag. They are sitting next to each other and seem to be in a kitchen, as >> there is a glimpse of a cabinet and an oven in the background >> >> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may >> >> 0777 315 8181 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 21 Sep 2023, at 10:17 pm, Feliciano Godoy <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> The email is actually [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Considering the matter, I believe you're better off Colleen Apple. >> >> Feliciano >> >> For tech tips and updates: >> >> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v >> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v> >> >> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v >> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> >> >> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v <http://www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v> >> >> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones >> who do. -Steve Jobs >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 21, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Paula Pinder <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I'vbe tried all that. I've written to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> so hopefully they will reply. Thanks for your >> suggestions. >> >> >> >> Best wishes >> >> >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 >> Sent from Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> >> >> _____ >> >> From: Paula Pinder <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:29:55 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE >> >> >> >> Thanks all for your messages. >> >> >> >> I can't go back to IOS as my iPhone has stopped talking and I have tried >> everything everyone suggested. >> >> >> >> Best wishes >> >> >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 >> Sent from Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of >> Dennis Long <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:23:17 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Subject: RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE >> >> >> >> First this isn’t an android list. Second I would just switch back to iOS. >> You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS. You can attempt contacting Google >> accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who >> called his show have had good luck. >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of >> Paula Pinder >> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE >> >> >> >> Hi All >> >> >> >> I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It >> plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android >> Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could >> on the Iphone? 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