I agree with this mostly. I still have my iPhone 11, and I’ll probably hold on to it until the latest IOS no longer supports it. However, no IOS or iPhone has been perfect, including the iPhone 8. Also, new features are constantly being added, so this is something to take into account when deciding to upgrade or not. I tend to move up to the latest version of IOS since no version of IOS I’ve ever run as been perfect and I am optimistic (although maybe mistakenly) that things will get better with every new version.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jenny Bomareto Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 1:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17. That’s one of the reasons I don’t update the iOS right away. And why I still have my iPhone 8 and Matt’s iPhone second GEN that came out in 2020 because all of these faulty things going on. Plus, why taking pay out money for a new phone when the ones work just fine that we have. Thanks for reading regarding this matter. Jenny Bomareto Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The tones have gone to hell in a hand basket. I hope everyone is writing Apple Accessibility about this. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 11:09 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17. Hi Mark and all, Sadly my experience with the new iPhone 15 Pr is manifesting the annoying drag and drop bug wherein when attempting to place apps before or after others folders are inadvertently created against the user's will. It is really irritating and this is on an iPhone 15 Pr which was set up as new so there's no corruption potentially from having restored from a backup. I'm also still not receiving sounders for in coming email even though all is set properly. But other than those all seems well at this early hour. And I agree the 15's do feel lighter than those that had come before them. Take good care, Robin On 9/23/2023 8:56 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello All, I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon, local time but the mailing list servers were down. So, I am posting this again, now. Mark Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023: Hello All, Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17. As for the physical devices? They definitely weigh less than the 14 series. I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver problems discussed on the list, of late. For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on the 15 models I tested. I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp. To my delight, VoiceOver functioned just as expected. Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal primary third-party app; so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was definitive or comprehensive. However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one. I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by those of us who did not preorder. I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really like that new action button, featured on the Pro models. Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought. I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices. It's all about "baby steps" (smile). Your Brother in the Journey, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. 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